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Old 01-08-2014, 04:04 AM   #81
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I did not elaborate on the entire development of the 7-08. I only pointed out the genesis of the 7X51. Even the 30-06 traces to Germany but these post are for education not sleep inducement.
Education is exactly what that post was. If it puts you to sleep, that's not my fault.

Development of the 7mm-08? The 7mm-08 Remington came from the .308 Winchester, which came from the .300 Savage, which came from the .250-3000 Savage, which came from the 30-06 Springfield, which came from the .30-03 Springfield.

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As for the 30-06, as said, it was developed from the 30-03. If there is another round that was used to develop it, please post it. I'd be interested to read about it.

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i have heard more than a few times over the years that the genesis of the 30-06 by virtue of the 30-03 it's direct parent cartridge was the 7mm Mauser cartridge. but i have never found any real concrete evidence or proof to support that claim yet to date.
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Gees that sounds like a New Range officer at a "Yuppie" gun club. I am "wow'ed" TWW. That Wekipedi is really something.
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I don't know what evidence you are seeking? I personally think the 7X57 had such an effect on our troops in 1898 that they studied captured Mauser rifles. The American ordinance had a history of resisting modernization.
There were no pilot cartridges available in America and there was the American attachment to the .30 caliber. The 7X57 and the 93 Mauser rifle was light years ahead of American technology of the day. As you know we were sued more than once regarding this issue.

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Gees that sounds like a New Range officer at a "Yuppie" gun club. I am "wow'ed" TWW. That Wekipedi is really something.
What's a range officer?

Our range has never had one. It's just a good old fashion country shooting range.

As for Wikipedia, it can be good for jogging your memory. I don't trust it to be exact, but it seems to be pretty well spot on for guns and ammo.
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I don't know what evidence you are seeking? I personally think the 7X57 had such an effect on our troops in 1898 that they studied captured Mauser rifles. The American ordinance had a history of resisting modernization.
There were no pilot cartridges available in America and there was the American attachment to the .30 caliber. The 7X57 and the 93 Mauser rifle was light years ahead of American technology of the day. As you know we were sued more than once regarding this issue.

http://americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=1944&cid=31
It's possible they got the idea for the 30-03 and 30-06 from the 7mm Mauser, but as far as using it to actually develop the rounds, I'm not so sure.

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Humm? Can you show a diagram comparing a 747 Passenger Jet to a "Chicken Hawk"? After all the principles of flight originated from birds. Again were are discussing the "principles and concepts" not a direct infringement of an existing cartridge.
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TWW I think the feathers on the Jet are "Tin". The wing tanks on the Hawk are well hidden. Those are not diagrams they are portraits. Remember the difference if you ever go for an engineering degree.
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TWW I think the feathers on the Jet are "Tin". The wing tanks on the Hawk are well hidden. Those are not diagrams they are portraits. Remember the difference if you ever go for an engineering degree.
Actually, IIRC the wings on the 747 are made of a steel skeleton covered in aluminum alloy panels. Tin is a completely different element.















As for that degree, I'm already half way done with it. Though, now we're getting off topic. Back to ammo.

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