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Old 12-12-2013, 04:24 AM   #31
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I don't think any general caliber discussion is complete till you've

looked at the 30.06. Born of war, revered for over a century

nationwide. Father to over a dozen other calibers.

I reload, and it's great to go afield with 110, 150, 165, 180,

and 220 grain bullets all in the same caliber. With 100 or

110 grain bullets, it's a premier varmint and pest control load,

almost like a magnum, as long as you don't mind tearing up

the hides, somewhat.


The new hunting rifle is fun, but it's also a good time to punch

paper with the old Springfields.
i agree! most definately the 30-06 is going to be talked about and discussed. i think it might be the cartridge we do tomorrow.
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I think if anyone is interested in prepping for an end of the world scenario, then they should have at least one 30-06. This particular cartridge is probably the most commonly available round in the US. You can find it EVERYWHERE. If all a town has is some small corner store, then 9 times out of 10 it will have a box or 2 of 30-06.

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I think if anyone is interested in prepping for an end of the world scenario, then they should have at least one 30-06. This particular cartridge is probably the most commonly available round in the US. You can find it EVERYWHERE. If all a town has is some small corner store, then 9 times out of 10 it will have a box or 2 of 30-06.
i can agree with that! IMO, a person just can't go wrong with a 30-06 rifle. at one time, i had three bolt actions all chambered in 30-06!

the 30-06 is one very versatile cartridge and has proven itself for well over a hundred years and on just about every continent in war and hunting. it's one proven catridge.

i am a fan of the 30-06 and have been for many years. it was one of the first larger bore calibers i bought after using my father's M70 in 243 for deer hunting. i have owned at least one rifle in 30-06 for over 35 years now. it's one i will probably always own at least one of.
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A while back I gave it some thought. 22LR, 5.56, then step up to

30.06.

22LR for obvious reasons.

5.56, because it can share chambers with .223,

and it's magnum. Leapfrog a load of calibers,

then go for 30.06 for all the reasons mentioned

earlier. Then you have skipped a lot of interim stuff,

and come up with 3 important, basic calibers, which are

widely available, & will fill the bill for most hunting needs.

I think in the process, most folks wind up with some

combloc stuff, and 7.62 X 39 & 54R, anyway.

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30-06 Springfield. 30 caliber, 1906.

based of it's shortlived predecessor the 30-03. 30 caliber, 1903.

the 1903 Springfield rifle was originally chambered in 30-03 and most were rechambered in 30-06 in around 1906.

the metric measurements are as follows. the 30-03 is 65mm long whereas the 30-06 is 63mm long. so they shortened the case by 2mm and went to lighter spitzer bullets to up the performance on the 30-06.

a lot of people think the 270 Winchester was based on the 30-06, myself included, and it is, but no it's not. the 270 is actually based off the longer 30-03 case instead.

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AXX, I wanted to do the .30.03 Springfield connection. OK,OK to put the development of the .30.06 in a historical prospective. Tom Horn the famous Frontier Gun Fighter was hanged the same year the 30.03 Springfield was introduced 1903.

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What's today's cartridge?

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how about a combination! the 30-30 Winchester, or AKA the 30 WCF and the 32 Winchester Special.
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32 Winchester special I have no experience with and have never shot. 30-30 is almost one of those I would say everyone should have (even though I do not have one, but it is #3 on the list). 30-30 is one of those that I shot early on as a young kid. Good for moderate ranges. Ammo is easy to get and is rather low recoiling. It is just a nice, easy cartridge to shoot and is easy to find ammo for.

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32 Winchester special I have no experience with and have never shot. 30-30 is almost one of those I would say everyone should have (even though I do not have one, but it is #3 on the list). 30-30 is one of those that I shot early on as a young kid. Good for moderate ranges. Ammo is easy to get and is rather low recoiling. It is just a nice, easy cartridge to shoot and is easy to find ammo for.
the 32 Winchester Special came out in 1901 and it's parent cartridge is the 30-30 Winchester. Winchester chambered the Model 94 in this cartridge up until about the late 1950's from what i can gather.

using the same weight bullets in both cartridges, the 32 W.S. only offers about 50-150 fps advantage over the 30-30.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_Winchester_Special
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