[jpattersonnh]

Originally Posted by Cadoll

Seems that rifle shooters and handgun users are not on the same page when it comes to moly coat. My gun has a 3" barrel which seems to me would not have the same fouling effect as it would when travelling down the length of a long bore rifle. I'd like to hear from handgun reloaders who have a similar barrel length and some testing with the moly coat. I am not especially interested in hearing oponions that dont pertain to this specific issue.

Sunshine! I have shot berry bullets, a copper coated bullet similar to your moly question. I shoot cast lead for target. The coating was not worth the cost. 700 rounds a day w/ a good cast lead bullet may start to have issues, but seriously?
3" barrel? Your gonna get more powder fouling then anything else.

[Cadoll]

Originally Posted by jpattersonnh

Sunshine! I have shot berry bullets, a copper coated bullet similar to your moly question. I shoot cast lead for target. The coating was not worth the cost. 700 rounds a day w/ a good cast lead bullet may start to have issues, but seriously?
3" barrel? Your gonna get more powder fouling then anything else.

Maybe i'm missing something, so you are saying moly coat bullets are fine out of my kimber?? I love to shoot and dont want to sPend more than i have to. The cost savings is quite substantial. I dont own much!
Thanks for your input.

[noylj]

Did you read my post?
Moly-Kote bullets are GREAT in handguns (and probably in rifles as cast bullets).
The rifle shooters have had a "problem" with powdered MoS2 burnishing in their barrels and possibly allowing moisture between the moly and the barrel steel.
This is NOT an issue with Moly-Koted bullets.
As I said, though, the price (like swaged-lead and copper-plated bullets) are getting up to the same level as jacketed bullets. For me, at this time in the market, I only buy cast lead bullets (from MasterCast of Carbondale, Ill, or Missouri Bullets) or real jacketed bullets from Zero or Montana Gold.
Precision "Black Bullets" are swaged with a fairly hard alloy and are extremely accurate. However, as I said, they are pricing themselves out of the market for me.

[cpttango30]

Noylj is talking about these. http://www.billybullets.com/

We are all talking about these. Hornady A-Max Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 75 Grain Boat Tail - MidwayUSA

Moly Coated Pistol Bullets - Bullets

Sill wouldn't use either one in my guns.

[jpattersonnh]

Originally Posted by Cadoll

Maybe i'm missing something, so you are saying moly coat bullets are fine out of my kimber?? I love to shoot and dont want to sPend more than i have to. The cost savings is quite substantial. I dont own much!
Thanks for your input.

They would be fine, but why spend more? Just shoot hard cast lead. I use 9mm, 10mm, and .45 cast lead. All in autos. 158gr semi wad cutters in .357. 205gr in .44-40. I usually pay 29.00 + shipping for 500 lubed bullets. In rifles I use 6.5, 8mm, and 9.3 in cast lead. What is the advantage of moly in a 3" barrel?

[Cadoll]

Originally Posted by jpattersonnh

They would be fine, but why spend more? Just shoot hard cast lead. I use 9mm, 10mm, and .45 cast lead. All in autos. 158gr semi wad cutters in .357. 205gr in .44-40. I usually pay 29.00 + shipping for 500 lubed bullets. In rifles I use 6.5, 8mm, and 9.3 in cast lead. What is the advantage of moly in a 3" barrel?

Thanks for clearing things up for me. Can i ask where you buy your lead?
Thanks again

[jpattersonnh]

I always keep an eye on Midway USA. Some Laser cast, I also use a guy in Wisconsin for .44-40 and 9.3. He is really resonable. The Best bullets are from Beartooth bullets. Marshall is not cheap. I'll send you a PM w/ info this week.

[noylj]

Let's look at 9mm bullets.
First, there are cast bullets.
Penn Bullets (excellent) cost $65-70/1000. MasterCast of Carbondale, Ill, are also excellent at the 125gn L-TCN bullets are running about $50/1000.
Meister Bullets 122gn L-TCN run about $94/1000. Finally, Oregon Trail (Laser Cast) bullets are running $103.50/1000.
Then, there are the Moly-Kote bullets: Precision Bullets 125gn L-FP runs $70/1000 and Black Bullets International 130gn L-TC costs $70/100.
Next, there are Cu-plated bullets. Berry's 124gn FP costs $87/1000.
Finally, there are jacketed bullets. Montana Gold 124gn JHP are available for $303/3750 (equivalent to $80.80/1000). Zero bullets 125gn FPFMJ are $81/1000 and their 125gn JHP costs $84/1000.
Based on this, I would either buy cast lead from MasterCast or I would buy real jacketed bullets and have the best.

[cpttango30]

Originally Posted by noylj

Let's look at 9mm bullets.
First, there are cast bullets.
Penn Bullets (excellent) cost $65-70/1000. MasterCast of Carbondale, Ill, are also excellent at the 125gn L-TCN bullets are running about $50/1000.
Meister Bullets 122gn L-TCN run about $94/1000. Finally, Oregon Trail (Laser Cast) bullets are running $103.50/1000.
Then, there are the Moly-Kote bullets: Precision Bullets 125gn L-FP runs $70/1000 and Black Bullets International 130gn L-TC costs $70/100.
Next, there are Cu-plated bullets. Berry's 124gn FP costs $87/1000.
Finally, there are jacketed bullets. Montana Gold 124gn JHP are available for $303/3750 (equivalent to $80.80/1000). Zero bullets 125gn FPFMJ are $81/1000 and their 125gn JHP costs $84/1000.
Based on this, I would either buy cast lead from MasterCast or I would buy real jacketed bullets and have the best.

Whats with all the cost stuff? He is asking if they would perform any better in his gun over regular bullets.

[mmszbi]

I have loaded and shot a ton of moly coated bullets through my Kimber with no ill effects whatsoever from BlackBullets Intl. The only thing I have notices is if I have shot jacketed bullets beforehand to clean the barrel well before shooting the moly, as copper fouling if any will tend to accumulate some of the moly...no big deal.
When loading the moly bullets, its important to use the same care when crimping that you would with a plated bullet, to tight of a crimp will damage the coating.
A great source for an exceptional quality cast bullet is GrandMasterBullets.com out of Canon City, CO. Jeff Goody is a veteran, going to school full time for a Masters and still runs an excellent business on the side. His customer service is outstanding and so is the quality and price of his bullets.