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Old 06-28-2012, 09:37 AM   #31
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I wish an ammunition manufacturer made basically a wax slug type round that people have been making for years,but improved on.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:21 PM   #32
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shoot ten different brands of OO buckshot for example, the diameter of the spread or pattern can be different. also the POI can be different. some may hit the the target higher than where aimed, some may hit lower. every shotgun and ammo can perform differently.
I don't think all this matters to much for home defense. As soon as the bg sees a shotgun he probably will be running, and if not after the first shot if hes still in one piece he will be
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:06 PM   #33
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Ithaca 37 with 18" barrel with slug sights on it. If the subject is out at buckshot range, then the court is not going to figure that that they are that big of a threat to warrant shooting them at 40 yards. At 25 ft, #5 birdshot will group at about 12". Then they are a possible threat, across an average 12 foot room, a load of birdshot will cut a person in half, that is usually sufficient to gather their attention.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:50 PM   #34
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Buckshot at 25 feets goin to group alot better than 40 yards also where I live you can shoot them n your yard dont have to be inside the house
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...across an average 12 foot room, a load of birdshot will cut a person in half, that is usually sufficient to gather their attention.
LOL Really? From three feet they are shallow and gruesome looking but cause no wound cavity and don't penetrate enough to stop someone with any level of reliability.

Maybe you mean from a 2/3rds scale black powder fowler?
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LOL Really? From three feet they are shallow and gruesome looking but cause no wound cavity and don't penetrate enough to stop someone with any level of reliability.

Maybe you mean from a 2/3rds scale black powder fowler?
You've obviously never observed an autopsy, or even discussed this with a medical examiner. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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I don't think all this matters to much for home defense. As soon as the bg sees a shotgun he probably will be running, and if not after the first shot if hes still in one piece he will be
well to me it does matter. i don't just assume some load is going to work when needed. i want to know for a fact what to expect from any given load i have on hand in any shotgun i own. so if you feel like gambling with your safety and well being when an intruder breaks in, go for it. ain't nobody responsible for you, but you.
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I understand that but what i mean is does it matter if the round hits a lil high or low maybe with a handgun rifle or slug but a scatter gun within its range i dont think so much
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There's really no way of knowing what each round will do unless you shoot at flesh and bone the most accurate rounds not always the best stopper
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There's really no way of knowing what each round will do unless you shoot at flesh and bone the most accurate rounds not always the best stopper
a piece of cardboard or poster board will tell you what you need to know. same as any pattern testing with a shotgun. only difference is just doing it at a shorter distance from the target. at least once a month, the wife and i practice in the backyard with the shotguns. we try different loads sometimes, and sometimes just to stay in practice. then afterwards, i do a thorough cleaning and oiling. i try not to assume something is going to work, nor do i just accept someone elses opinions or suggestions without checking it out for myself.
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