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TheSadPanda 04-12-2010 12:35 AM

Bad reloads?
 
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Hey everyone, this is my first thread, so I hope I did this right.

Anyway, I had a friend of mine reload some .270 win ammo for me and when I got them I noticed the bullets seem to be really far out of the casing, I've attached a photo of one of the bullets. Does anyone think this could be a problem? Also, could it effect accuracy at all?


He also loaded a few .30-06 casings with the .270 win bullet and said it would be fine. I'm very hesitant to try those. any input on these worries would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you all.

robocop10mm 04-12-2010 12:44 PM

.30-06 IS the parent case for the .270. The .270 is little more than a necked down .30-06. This is perfectly proper, IF it is sized properly.

Does the loaded round fit the magazine of your rifle? Is it too long? Will it chamber w/o resistance and extract w/o leaving the bullet in the barrel? If it fits, it fits.

The more important question is do you trust this friend? What lad did he use. What powder and how much?

J T Patriot 04-13-2010 04:18 AM

Just eye ballin that .270 round it looks to me like the bullet is about to fall off. I bet if you gave it a little pull it would come right out. It may chamber with out falling out, but I aint shootin it.

TheSadPanda 04-13-2010 04:38 AM

It took a great deal of force to fully chamber the bullet into the gun. He used IMR 4350 powder. He gave me three different dosages: 51, 53, and 55. It is a 130 grain bullet. I did shoot a few of the 51 bullets, and although my aim is hardly what I call great, I know i wasn't shooting 12" groups at 50 yards all by myself.

J T Patriot 04-13-2010 04:45 AM

My guess is that the force required as you mentioned was you seating the bullet in with the lands of the rifle barrel. DO NOT DO THIS. This person loading your ammo doesnt have a clue and you guys are going to get hurt or worse.

cpttango30 04-13-2010 10:22 AM

BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER. 55gr is a MAX load according to Hodgdons web site. Your OAL should be between 3.18" and 3.23" measured from tip of bullet to base of cartridge. If you shoot that 55 gr load it may well blow your face off.


First if you yourself don't handload please buy factory ammo. That bullet may be seated half teh way down the neck.

Seating a bullet that is into the lands is ok when you know what your doing. He DOESN'T have a CLUE what he is doing.

Really it is not a big deal have him look at the load data and measure the Overall Length (OAL) of the loaded round and seat them to the proper depth.

If you watch NCIS I think dude needs a Gibbs head slap.

opaww 04-13-2010 12:05 PM

I use no ones reloads nor do I reload for anyone but myself and my son. If I need ammo while I am out then I buy factory loads but I use my own reloads most of the time.

I know each of my loads and take great pains to insure they are with in specs and reliable. I do not hot load anything, and you cannot be assured that someone else's reloads are not hot loads. Even with you doing the reloading mastakes happen.

Rick1967 04-13-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by opaww (Post 269202)
I use no ones reloads nor do I reload for anyone but myself and my son. If I need ammo while I am out then I buy factory loads but I use my own reloads most of the time.

I know each of my loads and take great pains to insure they are with in specs and reliable. I do not hot load anything, and you cannot be assured that someone else's reloads are not hot loads. Even with you doing the reloading mastakes happen.

+1 I have had people ask me to load for them. I always refuse.

Brigadeir 04-18-2010 12:50 PM

In my humble and limited experience, I have found that head spacing varies for each firearm I have loaded for. While the listed COAL is a good general guide that should keep rounds fitting in all firearms of that caliber, each rifle you are loading for should be gauged for it's particular optimum head space. OAL Gauges Accurately determine overall cartridge length for proper bullet free run and bullet-seating depth of the chamber measured. I have a Ruger 77 that has an unusually long head space, but when gauged and loads made for it, they are 1/4 MOA. I could never get that accurate with factory loads or by loading to the recommended COAL. In the absence of a OAL Gauge, I always follow the Specifications in my LOAD MANUAL. I would get a Caliper and measure the Overall Length of your cartridges and compare with the COAL listed in the manual for the specific bullet.

Just my $.02

Brig

Rick1967 04-18-2010 02:21 PM

Any round that I make will chamber into the weapon it was intended to effortlessly. I always make a few dummy rounds that I mark with a blue marker. I make sure that I can cycle a full mag through without any trouble before I proceed to actual loading. I would never shoot something that feels like you are describing.

The 270 vs 30-06 thing is ok. But it should feel like a factory round. I use 30-06 and 270 to make 8mm mauser.


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