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Old 08-17-2014, 04:41 AM   #1
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After doing a little research online, my understanding is that "true" AP rounds are not readily available, although you might be able to find SOME rounds in calibers such as 30-06. My question is what caliber rifle round (including rifled slugs) that is readily available for purchase has the best chance of penetrating body armor.

***No, I'm not planning on doing anything illegal. Bad guys can wear bullet proof vests too.

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Old 08-17-2014, 04:50 AM   #2
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I'm not planning on doing anything illegal.
That was my first thought.
Bulletproof armor is not as common as Hollywood would have you believe and as far as I know does provide complete body coverage.
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After doing a little research online, my understanding is that "true" AP rounds are not readily available, although you might be able to find SOME rounds in calibers such as 30-06. My question is what caliber rifle round that is readily available for purchase has the best chance of penetrating body armor.

***No, I'm not planning on doing anything illegal. Bad guys can wear bullet proof vests too.
30-06 is not a caliber -- .308 is.

Don't know if you can still order steel shanked copper jacketed lead .308 bullets in 200 grain.

To push a heavy bullet like that you need a 300 magnum rifle of some kind.

And you need to reload them yourself -- they are not normally for sale.

They work like a charm though -- they will go through anything.

These are normally used for hunting brown bears.
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damn near any centerfire rifle will penetrate soft body armor

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To the best of my knowledge M2 Ball AP is the most common true "ap" ammo. I have a few repackaged 20 round packs of it, but I believe I've seen it in surplus cans at a few gun shows.

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AP ammo is meant to penetrate steel vehicle armor and hard body armor like I stated earlier not even lvl IIIa soft body armor is capable of stopping rifle rounds only when a hard rifle plate is used do you gain any ballistic protection from a rifle

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http://www.bulletproofme.com/Ballistic_Protection_Levels.shtml
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I don't think we should be discussing the how-tos of defeating armor.

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any 30-06 150grain up will zip through all commercially available soft vests and trauma plates both sides as will 308 and all hunting rifle rounds like 30-30 270 243 25-06 7mm 8mm etc. you do not need actual ap ammo. it wont work any better on a vest than non-ap.

its a hollywood myth that ap rounds are magically better on vests. the way ap works is the bullet hits a very hard surface (plate armor) and the steel penetrator slices through the armour. vests work by providing a softer surface and slowing the bullet down distributing its energy over the mass of the vest fibers.

works like a catchers mitt. this means a thick enough vest the penetrator core never comes into play. even on a trauma plate its going to have no advantage over regular bullets. your just wasting money on ap rounds.

less of course the goblins are in an armoured car. then it might be handy...

things like ak and ar15 loads may have trouble with plates.

however if you radically shorten rifle barrels they become very poor performers and in the case of things like 5.56 and 7.62x39 are easily outclassed by 22magnum and 22lr hyper velocity rounds when barrels are cut below 12"

and your right, vests are being more widely used by goblins in home invasions.

if your really concerned, a 45-70 marlin lever gun using buffalo bore bear rounds will eat a vested goblin.

you could also use a 458winmag 500 grain copper solids. they are used on things like elephants rhinos and cape buffalo...

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What about hollow point rifle rounds?

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