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Ultimate_sig 03-24-2012 06:47 AM

Ammo question
 
Whats the diffeence, besides price, between a jacketed round and a bonded one?

Sport45 03-24-2012 07:48 AM

The traditional cup and core jacketed bullet has a lead core inserted into a copper cup and then they are swaged together into the desired shape.

A bonded bullet could mean the lead core is essentially soldered to the jacket or in the case of bullets like the Speer Gold Dot it is electrostatically plated onto the lead bullet.

A partition bullet has it's lead core in two parts with a layer of the jecket material in between.

Ultimate_sig 03-24-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sport45
The traditional cup and core jacketed bullet has a lead core inserted into a copper cup and then they are swaged together into the desired shape.

A bonded bullet could mean the lead core is essentially soldered to the jacket or in the case of bullets like the Speer Gold Dot it is electrostatically plated onto the lead bullet.

A partition bullet has it's lead core in two parts with a layer of the jecket material in between.

I dont understand all that what doex it mean, more velocity, shot strater(more accurate), more damage or just a cleaner and healther round for your gun

cottontop 03-24-2012 12:42 PM

Performance wise, both bullets will do about the same thing. Sport45 is talking about the way the bullets are made.
cottontop

purehavoc 03-24-2012 12:50 PM

on HPs alot of times the jacket will come off during penetration , its alot harder for a bonded jacket to come off and on HPs or SD rounds it usually doesnt roll back with the lead it kinda does its own thing and helps make more of a damaging cutting edge from my perspective . but everyone on the internet has their own perspective ;)

robocop10mm 03-24-2012 04:49 PM

Keeping the jacket and core in one piece enhances the performance in soft targets (flesh). A bonded core bullet will be more likely to stay in one piece, retain weight and achieve proper penetration. The Gold Dot is the ultimate bonded core bullet as the jacket is bonded at the molecular level and cannot separate. Traditional jacketed bullets can give inconsistent performance. When it all stays in one piece, it works as intended. Intermediate barriers (clothing, windshield glass, etc) are likely to separate traditional jackets from their cores.

Ultimate_sig 03-24-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm
Keeping the jacket and core in one piece enhances the performance in soft targets (flesh). A bonded core bullet will be more likely to stay in one piece, retain weight and achieve proper penetration. The Gold Dot is the ultimate bonded core bullet as the jacket is bonded at the molecular level and cannot separate. Traditional jacketed bullets can give inconsistent performance. When it all stays in one piece, it works as intended. Intermediate barriers (clothing, windshield glass, etc) are likely to separate traditional jackets from their cores.

Im gunna go with the bonded hp

Sport45 03-25-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultimate_sig
I dont understand all that what doex it mean, more velocity, shot strater(more accurate), more damage or just a cleaner and healther round for your gun

It would help if you told us what the bullets are for. Target requirements are different from hunting which are different from self defense. Knowing whether it's for a handgun or rifle makes a difference too.

Ultimate_sig 03-25-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sport45

It would help if you told us what the bullets are for. Target requirements are different from hunting which are different from self defense. Knowing whether it's for a handgun or rifle makes a difference too.

Handgun, target, but I wanted to stock up for sd

raceroch 03-25-2012 07:10 PM

You should look into plated if you are just plonking and don't want lead... Lead being the least expensive.


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