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Old 02-17-2013, 06:26 AM   #131
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Oh yes, CF, the government buying up 1.6 billion rounds from the private sector while shoving an AWB has nothing to do with shortages

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Yep.

Just not laughing.

Especially since EVERY state with a left-leaning population is now flexing their muscles from mag bans to total surrender.
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Guns, ammo, the prices will never recover. We shooters, on a retired military budget, I was enlisted 30yrs, can forget about affordable prices again. The only hope I've seen lately, is ODCMP putting restriction limits on their items, which by the way, have become gouged/scalped items as well. Lately, there has been people buying the 10 gun limit, which is too damn many, just to resale at the scalp prices. Same with the ammo they sell, fortunately, limit's are in place on it. I'm not saying people should have a limit on the amount of guns they own, but if you're not normally a gun dealer, then quit screwing your fellow shooters just to make a unethical dollar. Those kind of folks, people remember when things settle back down some, as the jerks that took advantage of their neighbors.

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Guns, ammo, the prices will never recover. We shooters, on a retired military budget, I was enlisted 30yrs, can forget about affordable prices again. The only hope I've seen lately, is ODCMP putting restriction limits on their items, which by the way, have become gouged/scalped items as well. Lately, there has been people buying the 10 gun limit, which is too damn many, just to resale at the scalp prices. Same with the ammo they sell, fortunately, limit's are in place on it. I'm not saying people should have a limit on the amount of guns they own, but if you're not normally a gun dealer, then quit screwing your fellow shooters just to make a unethical dollar. Those kind of folks, people remember when things settle back down some, as the jerks that took advantage of their neighbors.
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We are in a crisis situation, our government is turning against it's own people. We were all caught by surprise. I can't believe someone is actually whining because others are buying ammo. If you have a need to shoot frequently then save your damn brass, buy a reload system and load your own.

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Hossfly, you say I'm a half empty glass kinda of guy and you know "Nothing" about me. Why do you want to go at me personally by making statements you know are rude, snide and sarcastic. Are you just trolling to get into some kind of "fuss"? You're comment/reply doesn't even have anything to do with the "Topic". It was just a poke at me.

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You want to understand the ammo shortage, just Google "government ammo purchase" and you'll be blown away by how many millions and millions of rounds Homeland Security has purchased this year. And unprecedented amount. Like a 30 year supply. And for ammo makers, guess who's contracts they must fill first? Do your own research. It is scary.
i just think we have it backwards. we arent in any real wars just political actions that dont need our soldiers dying. without us actually fighting a true world war or a real war against another nation, govt sales should only be filled when civilian demand is met. we the people are more important than they the government in times of peace.
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I don't think anti's are buying up ammo. I'm sure it's us who's buying up the ammo. Was at a gun show the other day & a line was formed from the entrance to the rear where folks were asked what caliber they wanted & how many thousand. No chance to ask about brand or specifics on the ammo. Just how many you wanted of what caliber & they were charging you $1 ea for common rifle calibers. You were then handed your ammo.

The media has done a good job of making guns & ammo seem deplorable to the sheeple that watch mainstream outlets. I went to visit my 87 year old mom & my sister that lives with her extended her arm & handed me a box of 7.62x54R that she found left after my dad died a couple of years ago. She handed it to me like it was a rotten fish & asked me to get it out of there & that they didn't want any guns or ammo at the house.

This was not the feeling as I went thru my dads guns two years ago with them when he died & told them about hunting trips with each gun he & I had taken, re-loading together, range trips & I held the 9mm pistol my dad used to save his life from 5 guys that tried to rob him & they ended up shooting another guy & robbing him after my dad escaped the situation.

Right now lots of folks in the general populace have been made to feel very afraid of guns & ammo & that they should have nothing to do with them. I plan to continue what I've done for decades-keep taking new shooters to the range & organize group shoots with old shooting friends that invite other new shooters. I plan to do this as long as I can.

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Alliant used to make all the military contract ammo just a few years ago. Now the gubment is using 18 suppliers and some are even foreign. Don't know what they need all that ammo for.

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Hossfly, you say I'm a half empty glass kinda of guy and you know "Nothing" about me. Why do you want to go at me personally by making statements you know are rude, snide and sarcastic. Are you just trolling to get into some kind of "fuss"? You're comment/reply doesn't even have anything to do with the "Topic". It was just a poke at me.
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& say it has nothing to do with the topic?
You sure aren't what i'd call optimistic so yes- Your glass if half full--I try to keep mine at the half full mark (at least)-
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Hossfly, it's cool, you can have the last word with me. Even though it has nothing to do with "Ammo shortages".
From your last remark, which actually was kinda "witty", I believe you would be someone I'd enjoy visiting with. You have a great history of being "liked" here on the forum.

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