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Old 10-04-2007, 12:20 AM   #11
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[robocop10mm- "A lot of less sophisticated gunners refer to ammunition as bullets. Just like the folks that refer to bullets as "heads". Lets try to nurture these neophytes and get them into the fold. I try to be as proper and descriptive as possible in dealing with the undereducated members of our society"

That's a worthy goal for sure. Problem is we are sometimes faced with trying to guess if they mean what they say or if they mean what we think they are trying to say. ??? Jumping the wrong way, we may offer more confusion than help until we get the language fixed.

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Absolutely! It is difficult to understand the question when there is a variance in the terminology. Let's just avoid flaming someone over a "newbie" word. I know some of the variance is due to local dialect. I have friends from the New york area that refer to bullets (projectiles) as "heads". They are not wrong, just speaking a different version of "Gunglish".

When in doubt, ask for a clarification.

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The English has been butchered, however we should all be thankful, that we are not reading it in Spanish!!!

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Hey this can be proved easily, next time you are out camping at night just throw a box of .22 lr into the campfire. Everyone will probably soil themselves but nobody will be shot. First time I saw this I thought we'd al die, but I don't think we did, but then I have been wrong once or twice in my life

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OMG Really everyone remembers reading about it but no one comes up with the MYTHBUSTERS episode that disproves all but the 50bmg is not very lethal.



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For each action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means that the exact same amount of force is going to be exerted on the case and the bullet. The bullet of a 22lr weighs 36 to 40 gr. The case weighs in at less than that much less maybe 10 to 20 gr. So the force being applied to each is equal but we know that it takes more power to move a heavier object and a lighter object. So seeing as it takes more force to move a heavier object the lighter one will move at a higher rate of speed or in our case velocity. the bullet is not going to go as fast because it weighs 2x more than the case.
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No it would not travel with the same impact force but ever hear of fragmentation ? the cartridge could explode and send shrapnel in all directions ... so it could cause a body to get real damaged or even shredded depends on how close and if it is a heavy load

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extremely unlikely to even cause harm of any kind

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Some things seem transparently clear. If a free cartridige could propel a bullet as fast/leathal without a barrel as with it we wouldn't need those bulky, expensive and heavy barrels would we?

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a case fragment might put your eye out if your super unlucky but you wouldnt die from it. well you might from infection under government run healthcare in a few years from now...

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No it would not travel with the same impact force but ever hear of fragmentation ? the cartridge could explode and send shrapnel in all directions ... so it could cause a body to get real damaged or even shredded depends on how close and if it is a heavy load
Cartridge brass is malleable (bends easily). Smokeless powder requires significant pressure to completely burn. The primer, being the lightest part of the cartridge, will tend to pop out first and the powder will flare off through the flash hole. IF the primer is contained partially by whatever surface set it off in the first place, the bullet will pop out. As soon as it releases from the case, the pressures will drop and the bullet will not go far. The brass may give way but would be unlikely to send significant shrapnel.
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