Ammo Exploding
You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gear & Accessories > Ammunition & Reloading >

Ammo Exploding


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-24-2007, 03:33 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 6
Default Ammo Exploding

If a bullet (jacketed) were to explode, without being put in a barrel, say; if you threw it up against something concrete, does the bullet have the same capability to be lethal as it did before without the forward velocity it gains from the barrel?
AlphaCat is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 07-24-2007, 05:50 PM   #2
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 333
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Yes it potentially can be lethal, but it will not be as lethal as being in a chamber.
ranger_sxt is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2007, 03:44 AM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
marysdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: No. California
Posts: 103
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

This has been well researched and demonstrated. The answer is, no.

When not confined, the case will attain about 150 fps and the bullet (being heavier) a lot less. At 150 fps, the case won't even penetrate a sheet of corrugated cardboard ( I can't remember where I read about that). An excellent book that addresses this question (and a load of other fascinating info not found elsewhere) is Hatcher's Notebook, by Julian S. Hatcher. Hatcher served in the Ordnance Corps for 40 years and experimented with just about everything that you can do to a firearm. Hatcher experimented by electrically firing various cartridges (.30-06, .45 ACP., 12 GA.) while next to a bar of soap (to simulate flesh). The deepest penetration was a dent about 1/4 in. deep, which he felt would cause a bruise that would not break the skin.
__________________
worldbayonets.com | Bayonet Collector's Network (BCN) | Society of American Bayonet Collectors | Life Member NRA | C & R 03 FFL

Follow us on Facebook! facebook.com/worldbayonets

The bayonet cannot be abolished for the reason, if for no other, that it is the sole and exclusive embodiment of that willpower which, alone, both in war and everyday life, attains its object.—General M. I. Dragomirov
marysdad is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2007, 05:25 AM   #4
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BLS33's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 607
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

When the gas is confined in the barrel it creates much a higher propellant velocity because the gas cannot expand freely and must push the bullet out to free itself. In the open it is free to spread out immediately.
__________________
Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed, and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by Man.
- Jack Handey
BLS33 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2007, 12:52 PM   #5
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SW OK
Posts: 4,998
Liked 2570 Times on 1417 Posts
Likes Given: 4080

Default

My occupation is Explosive Ordnance Disposal. Over the past 48 years i have destroyed in excess of two billion rounds of small arms ammunition by burning, mostly in open pits. Sometimes the cases and bullets fly about 15 feet: Seldom do they go further than that. Steel cased ammunition makes a louder bang when it burns.
alsaqr is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2007, 08:05 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 260
Default bullet explode

this question has me puzzled. and did any one catch it no! nothing will happen unless it bonces back.he said bullet not cartridge.
WILDCATT is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2007, 08:04 PM   #7
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
robocop10mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin,Texas, by God!!
Posts: 10,835
Liked 3456 Times on 1780 Posts
Likes Given: 374

Default ammo exploding

A lot of less sophisticated gunners refer to ammunition as bullets. Just like the folks that refer to bullets as "heads". Lets try to nurture these neophytes and get them into the fold. I try to be as proper and descriptive as possible in dealing with the undereducated members of our society.
robocop10mm is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2007, 09:22 PM   #8
bkt
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 6,973
Liked 1305 Times on 664 Posts
Likes Given: 151

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alsaqr View Post
My occupation is Explosive Ordnance Disposal. Over the past 48 years i have destroyed in excess of two billion rounds of small arms ammunition by burning, mostly in open pits. Sometimes the cases and bullets fly about 15 feet: Seldom do they go further than that. Steel cased ammunition makes a louder bang when it burns.
Is there any danger you'd want to "dispose" of it by sending it to me in the future? I'm going broke with ammo prices these days....
bkt is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2007, 07:01 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Pounce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 222
Liked 4 Times on 3 Posts

Default

I like that question bkt. I could use some (a lot) also!
Pounce is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2007, 02:23 AM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
cnorman18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Fort Worth,Texas
Posts: 457
Liked 24 Times on 19 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

I remember reading some years ago about a cop who accidentally shot a hole in the ceiling of his squadroom. He claimed that he dropped a live round when reloading, and that it detonated when it hit the floor. His commander didn't buy it...
__________________
"Valor needs first strength, then a weapon."
-- J. R. R. Tolkien (1892-1973)

"Free men have arms; slaves do not."
-- William Blackstone (1723-1780)
cnorman18 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Exploding Scarecrow Tagets Righteous General Rifle Discussion 2 01-27-2010 06:47 PM
PMC ammo in .45ACP FMJ, how would you rate this ammo? orangello Ammunition & Reloading 14 07-01-2009 06:36 PM
CMP Ammo In .30-06 billt Ammunition & Reloading 9 05-26-2008 10:02 PM
.45 ammo dragunovsks 1911 Forum 5 05-06-2008 08:37 PM
Barrel Exploding? WatchItGo General Shotgun Discussion 2 10-08-2007 07:10 PM



Newest Threads