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Old 03-07-2013, 10:04 PM   #21
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When things get back to normal, buy your powder in 8 lb caddies. You'll save a few bucks, and have plenty on hand if it gets tight again.

Of the powders I use most, HS-6, H110, H335, and IMR4985, I try to keep an unopened 8 pounder on the shelf at all times.

When I first open a caddy, I replace it with a new unopened one immediately. That way, I never have less than 8 pounds of each under the bench.

Took me a couple of years to get to this point, but it was worth it.

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okay, got to shoot the other ones i loaded. none of the 3.6 gr ones fully cycled. 2 of the 3.7 cycled fully.

will changing the seating depth help with pressure and cycling? or just pressures. was thinking maybe i could plant them a little deaper with a 3.7gr load? im ttrying to get this to work just because its the components i have on hand. i will re check my powder measure and probly seat a few at around 1.125 1.135. area to see if it works..

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okay, got to shoot the other ones i loaded. none of the 3.6 gr ones fully cycled. 2 of the 3.7 cycled fully.

will changing the seating depth help with pressure and cycling? or just pressures. was thinking maybe i could plant them a little deaper with a 3.7gr load? im ttrying to get this to work just because its the components i have on hand. i will re check my powder measure and probly seat a few at around 1.125 1.135. area to see if it works..

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It's starting to look like Clays isn't your powder.
Be careful, 3.7gr is a "no kidding" max load (32,500 cup), at least where the data is concerned.
Is your scale accurate?
Are your reading it correctly? Balance beam scales can be confusing at first glance. Also, if it's a balance beam: is it properly zeroed before each use?
Digitals are easy to read, but I have no faith in them. Opinions vary in that regard.
Either type should have check weights used periodically.
Sorry, but it sounds like your loads are a bit too light. If that is the case, you need to find out the cause and correct it before something exciting happens.
Do you know any experienced reloaders who can verify your procedures? If yes, call them asap.
When you get the chance, find a slower powder. 231/HP38 would probably be one of your better options. I like Bullseye, Unique & HS-6 myself for 9 mm & .45 acp. 3.5 to 3.7gr is just silly. .2 gr is way too tight of a tolerance. If you must continue using Clays, a lighter bullet might make life a bit easier.
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Switch powders, my friend.

Surely you can find a pound of Unique, AAC#5, AAC#7, Power Pistol, HS-6, etc somewhere.

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i did, searched my shelf and had more left of win231 than i thought i did. loaded up some at 4.6gr to try out.. hopefully this weekend.

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success, well almost. so i loaded 5 rounds up. 4.6gr of w231, and a 124gr fmj at 1.125.
they all fired great, no malfunctions at all. i grabbed 5 rounds of factory 115 to shoot after wards. just because... the first photo was of my loads. the second of the factory. the loads worked fine but lacked a lot of accuraccy that the factory loads had. this was at 15yrds.. but with that said. they are all effective kill shots. just not bullseyes. i may try to play with this a little but at least it worked and i can make plinking ammo.

this is for a sr9c. and perhaps in the future a sig 226.. need the slide for the 226 rt now though

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Gotta love win 231. I burn it in all pistol calibers.

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231 is not a bad powder for 9MM. But not a good one either. you really should try a slower powder. Bump that velocity up 150-200 FPS and I'll betcha those groups tighten.

My 9MM 115 loads with HS-6, clock 1300-1350 FPS from my SIG, Glock and Beretta and they are more accurate than factory.

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231 is not a bad powder for 9MM. But not a good one either. you really should try a slower powder. Bump that velocity up 150-200 FPS and I'll betcha those groups tighten.

My 9MM 115 loads with HS-6, clock 1300-1350 FPS from my SIG, Glock and Beretta and they are more accurate than factory.
you mention unique. i may be able to get that one. last time the store did have it. but that was 2 weeks ago.. have you used it?

the 231 works awesome in my 40, just gets dirty. but shoots great. thats why i had some. thought i only had a little left and was gonna use it for my 40 but when i looked it was slightly more than half full.
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oh yeah!.. tested out a new load today. 4.9gr of 231. 115gr seirra HP. COAL 1.125.

ran great, ejected everytime and was well within my accuracy needs. hehe

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