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Old 03-27-2013, 05:43 PM   #31
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I'm talking about experience in life or death situations. I don't want a pissing contest either, but I don't want comments like the 22 cal when I'm talking about a very serious conversation about self defense. I also don't want new people that don't have the experience using a 10mm because of these post. I'm fine when people are highly trains with a 10mm and use it for self defense. You know what I mean.



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I'm talking about experience in life or death situations. I don't want a pissing contest either, but I don't want comments like the 22 cal when I'm talking about a very serious conversation about self defense. I also don't want new people that don't have the experience using a 10mm because of these post. I'm fine when people are highly trains with a 10mm and use it for self defense. You know what I mean.
Soooooo, are you saying that 10mm is really only useful to LEO's, professional shooting contest participants, military people, and other experts? What do you consider "highly trained"? Does it matter if the shooter is a bit larger than average; would this make up for some lack of expertise?


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Well, you want a lot. I carry a 10 mm every day and have for 10 years or so. I have shot numerous IPSC matches with the 10mm. For me, the 10mm has adequate power for serious social work. Is there a possibility of a pass through shot ("over penetration")? Of course. The idea is to be able to penetrate to the vitals from ANY angle. A 9mm can pass through. A .40 can pass through. A .45 can pass through. My 10 mm has 50% more energy than a .45 ACP 230 gr Gold Dot and about 40% more energy than a .40 S&W 180 gr Gold Dot. If I MUST shoot someone, I want them to stay shot. If they are wearing body armor, I want to break things and knock the wind out of them so I can follow up as needed.

The 10mm in the hotter loadings is not for the faint of heart. You are shooting a Magnum class handgun. With the compensated Glock barrel/slide combo, the recoil is negligable. Follow up shots are quick, easy and accurate. In my S&W 1006 it was harsh w/o a proper recoil management system like the Sprinco recoil reducer.

The 10mm is the most versitile auto loading pistol round currently on the market. From super high speed 135 gr bullets to Subsonic 180's to hot 175's and 180's to hard hitting hard cast 200 gr flat points, it will fill nearly any niche short of deep cover.

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I'm talking about experience in life or death situations. I don't want a pissing contest either, but I don't want comments like the 22 cal when I'm talking about a very serious conversation about self defense. I also don't want new people that don't have the experience using a 10mm because of these post. I'm fine when people are highly trains with a 10mm and use it for self defense. You know what I mean.
People carry .22LR as self defense... And who's to say people have to carry only a 9, 40 or 45? Because you said so? I'm still not sure of what exactly your experience with weapons are, especially since you're new here.. I know plenty of people who carry a .380 because of the size of both them and the gun. A 10mm isn't an exclusive round that should only be carried by "highly trains" I personally love it from a reloading stand point and as soon as I find a gun that fits me to conceal, I'll be another statistic carrying the oh so special 10mm
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