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saviorslegacy 03-11-2010 05:08 AM

7.62
 
I have a Mosin Nagant and I plan on getting an AK-47 here soon. It is common knowledge that both are Russian and thus shoot a 7.62 round. The cartridge size is different but I believe that should only pertain to the amount of powder used and the of course, the brass. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyways, my father has the reloading press thingy, a smelting pot and other weird reloading gizmos that I have no idea what they are called, but no bullet molds. He is gonna get some molds for his AR-15, 1911 .45, Springfield and probably 9mm. I want the molds to be able to reload my Russian guns.
So my question is, "Where can I get molds for my guns?"

I will probably be getting a .357 Magnum mold as well. That probably shouldn't be to hard, should it?

Benning Boy 03-11-2010 05:35 AM

One is 7.62x39, the other is 7.62x54R.

In the case of the 7.62x54R, it would probably be cheaper just to buy the surplus, the priming system is different, and it takes some skill to pull off. At least that's what the reloading guys tell me.

jeepcreep927 03-11-2010 09:40 AM

Both *should* have a bore diameter of .311 but you might want to slug them to be sure, especially the Mosin.

jpattersonnh 03-11-2010 10:42 AM

If the AK you are looking at is a 47, then it would be a .311(7.62x39). They usually use a 120..125gr bullet. AK74 is 5.54x39. The 91/30 and its family use 7.62x54r. Bullet weights start at 150gr w/ 175..180 shooting the best, I use .312 for lead. I'm not sure if you can shoot cast lead out of an AK. Because the velocity is kept around 2000fps w/ gas check bullets, I'm not sure it would cycle the rifle. For 7.62x54r I would also recommend Gas checks to avoid barrel leading. You also need the correct load data. Simply reducing the charge can be dangerous as it can produce severe pressure spikes. You need boxer primed brass as berdan requires special tools and primers.

stalkingbear 03-11-2010 03:54 PM

It's going to be a big no no to load cast bullets for the AR 15, and possibly the AK. The lead will eventually stop up the gas system and then require a dang good cleaning to get it going again. Cleaning leading from the gas system is a bugger if you've never done it.

TXnorton 03-11-2010 05:44 PM

As cheap as Eastern Bloc surplus ammo is for the 7.62 x 54R, and as cheap as Wolf ammo for the AK is, why even comtemplate re-loading? I reload for over 20 different rifle and pistol calibers, but I have never even thought of doing so for my AK or my Mosin-Nagant.

jpattersonnh 03-11-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TXnorton (Post 245843)
As cheap as Eastern Bloc surplus ammo is for the 7.62 x 54R, and as cheap as Wolf ammo for the AK is, why even comtemplate re-loading? I reload for over 20 different rifle and pistol calibers, but I have never even thought of doing so for my AK or my Mosin-Nagant.

For the 7.62x54r there are benefits if you want to hunt. Or for just having fun!
A 170gr GC Cast lead .312 is a ton of fun in 7.62x54r or .303. They also will take whitetail under 150 yards. 2000fps MV or 1760 at 100 yards is meat on the table.

Rick1967 03-11-2010 06:43 PM

midwayusa.com is a great site for ordering molds. I do pour lead for the 7.62x39. I currently use a .309 150 grain bullet with a gas check. You need to check your bore diameter. I shoot an sks. I have had no problem shooting reloads. Some rifles damage brass when ejecting. If yours is one of those, don't waste you time or money. The brass is too expensive to waste. Midway will have anything you need. They also sell the brass if you can't find it locally.

I pour lead for everything I shoot. I shoot once a week no matter how cold or wet it is. I have not bought a box of ommo for over a year. Even at $7 a box for Wolf 7.62 x 39 it is much cheaper to reload. Watch gun shows for equipment. It is also amazing what people will sell at a yard sale.

I even resize and cut down 30-06 to 8mm mauser.

saviorslegacy 03-11-2010 07:01 PM

To bad that hunting with a high powered rifle is banned here in Ohio. I plan on moving to Georgia and I hope that I can hunt with it there.
BTW, since my gun is almost 70 years old, is it considered an antique?

robocop10mm 03-11-2010 09:14 PM

I use a bullet cast from a Lyman mold, sized to .311. 150 grain gas check, 26.7 grains of W-748 and cycles the action just fine on an AK or SKS. Shoots far better than Wolf at 100yds.

That same bullet will work for the "X 54R". A 170 may be better though.

Finding Boxer primed brass in either is the problem, more so in the X 54R.


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