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07-13-2012, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sport45
I have Remington 230gr Golden Saber for mine. Tested several hundred rounds for function 10-15 years ago and I'm not going to re-test just because some new whiz-bang round is marketed.
I'll have to admit I keep a white-box JHP in the chamber. That's so I don't waste the premium stuff rechambering whenever I load and unload the thing. I don't have any worries that the cheaper round that comes out first is going to leave anyone laughing at me...
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Like primer said its a .45. It will blow a hole in a elephants a$$.
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07-13-2012, 12:51 PM
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Black Talons live on in their descendants. FYI:
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Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold later by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon though without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However, there are differences in the anatomy of the bullets which become apparent when carefully examined side by side. The hollow point cavity dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered to enhance reliability of expansion, though the basic "reverse taper" design unique to the Black Talon was retained.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon
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07-13-2012, 01:07 PM
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Yes we know it was discontinued but you can still find it places. That's why it's $50 for 20. Bc they don't make it anymore. I just found some on gunbroker for $39.99
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07-13-2012, 03:50 PM
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IMHO, Remington Golden Sabre 185 grain JHP, +P. 1100 FPS rom a 1911. Good expansion and energy transfer, adequate penetration without excessive penetration.
BTW, Remington Law enforcement "Ranger T" is black talon without the black oxide coating.
Last edited by locutus; 07-13-2012 at 03:56 PM.
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07-16-2012, 01:38 PM
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.45 acp
Defiance load? I like that. The old saying they all fall to hardball may not apply here. I hear Federal hydrashock is a good choice. I just hope that I personally never have to find out the hard way.
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07-16-2012, 08:41 PM
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I use Winchester Rangers or PDX1 in all my duty/defensive firearms.
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07-16-2012, 08:48 PM
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I use Issued WW Rangers or Gold Dot in 9mm, 38, 357, 357sig, 40, 44 & 45.
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