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04-02-2012, 10:29 PM
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.45 ACP recommendation
Hello everyone,
I'm mostly shooting Federal Champion 45ACP out of my Colt but I'd like to get slightly higher quality ammunition with normal sized primers. The Federal Champions use 9mm primers in their 45ACP which leads me to believe that the "ignition" and therefore the pressure are not optimal, they shoot kinda dirty and have a big muzzle flash. I think that due to the small primer, part of the powder is still burning when exiting the barrel.
Anyway, right now I have to choose between Remington UMC, Federal American Eagle, Lawman, Independence, Fiocchi, PMC Bronze. I'm a bit biased towards American Eagle, Remington UMC and Fiocchi, however I prefer buying American when possible.
Let me know what you guys recommend !
PS: Here's a picture of the Federal Champion in my dad's Glock 21, the muzzle flash looks to me like unoptimal powder ignition:
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04-02-2012, 11:45 PM
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.45 ACP Range Ammunition
Blazer: CCI/Speer 45 Auto 230 grain FMJ 845/365 #3570
Magtech: 45 ACP +P 230 grain 1007/518 JHP #GG45B
Magtech: 45 ACP +P 185 grain 1148/540 JHP #GG45A
Winchester .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ 910/356 #USA45AVP
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04-02-2012, 11:54 PM
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You do not know what dirty is until you shoot Fiocchi. PMC is made in Korea so I prefer not to buy it. I have been to their plant here in the USA and while I was there it was shut down and the loading machines sold. There were only about 6 people there who took the ammunition coming from Korea and packing it in PMC boxes. I would rather buy American if possible. With Fiocchi, I think they use coal dust for powder. I like you prefer the Federal American Eagle to target shoot with. It is a high quality ammunition for the purpose.
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04-03-2012, 12:17 AM
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Thanks a lot guys for your input! Aha someone recommended me the Fiocchi but I take your word that it's not that good. Sounds like American Eagle is my first choice, what about Remington UMC? (not the bundle pack).
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04-04-2012, 01:14 AM
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You can reload, and tailor your loads to your wishes, you know.
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04-04-2012, 01:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W. C. Quantrill
You can reload, and tailor your loads to your wishes, you know.
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I'm very well aware of that and I don't the time to do it. On top of that some ranges prohibit reloaded ammo. Until I have the time, place and tools to venture with reloading my own ammo, I want to know what's reliable and not burn a hole in my pocket.
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04-05-2012, 12:57 PM
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The best I have found
Stan chen makes ASMY ammo primo. I was impressed enough to purchase some and I load and shoot about 10K per year in my 45's.
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04-05-2012, 02:42 PM
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There is no problem with the small primers in the .45 ACP. The powder used in the basic ammo is rather sooty regardless of the primer size. Only the high end carry ammo has high quality flame retardant powder. Everything else will be dirtier.
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04-07-2012, 11:21 PM
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Isn't there a pressure difference caused by using smaller primers?
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