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Old 08-12-2017, 05:49 PM   #11
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Yes, you could shorten the 38 Special case for reducing powder capacity and shoot it in a normal 38 Special chamber, just like shooting 38 Special in a 357 Magnum chamber. I believe it would take some math to determine the length of the "new" case to equal that of a 9mm Parabellum's case capacity, but all this would just be for "grins" as both the 38 Special and 9mm have been developed to do just about anything needed from a cartridge. Yes the 38 Special was designed as a black powder cartridge and yes the case capacity is quite large for the smokeless powders used today, but the 38 Special just plain works as is...

BTW, I tried the HBWC loaded backwards in the '80s and found it to be a dismal failure; some the skirts would collapse, some the skirts would tear off, on some the cavity would clog and act like a solid, accuracy was terrible (6"-8" at 15 feet), and a very few would perform as wanted with a mushroom. Overall not consistent performance for a SD round...


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The Old .38 Special is now 115 years old. It was loaded with a 158 grs lead bullet and 21.8 grs of black powder. It fired the bullet at 800 fps. Humm? things have not changed that much in over a century.
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Exactly!

The .38 spl. is a fine defensive round just as it is. It will killafella in a hurry. The snubbie is for up close and personal anyway, gaining a few fps isn't going to make a hell of a lot of difference. I have a .38 snubbie right by my knee as I type, it is to make noise and a distraction until I can reach for my shotgun. I am quite satisfied that the ammo inside will serve it's purpose.

Obsolete? I don't think so.
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i have to agree. why look for solutions to problems that don't really exist.

there's nothing wrong with trying to come up with new cartridges, but the reason that many like the 38 Spl. still exist after all these years, is simply because it still gets the job done.

and realistically, look at how many cartridges that are used in SD pistols, and how long the major ones have been around. several of the more popular ones are still being used even well over a hundred years after they were introduced.
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Don't count the 38 special out just yet especially with the +P loadings.

Federal's "new" load reminds me a lot of the hollow based lead wadcutters that we used to load with the hollow base out first for a ultimate hollow point load , 3.5 grains of Bullseye would give 800 fps and would mushroom out to .715 " diameter.
Looks like that old idea is making a comeback !
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If you load your own .38 specials don't have to be anemic, unless the revolver is not that strong.
The .357 magnum loading was developed in .38 cases at first.
You won't spit out a 110 or 125 grain bullet at 1800 fps vut some loads are pretty stout and very safe.
Loads or lead bullets are just about all going to be pretty slow.
Lead bullet loads is what the original .38 was about.


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