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Old 06-16-2013, 01:45 AM   #1
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I was thinking of reloading some 38 Specials / 357 Magnums using Bullseye powder and 125gr lead, round nose bullets.

Has anyone tried this combination? How was it for you, as a plinking round?

My Speer #11 manual says 4.4-5.1 grains (soft point or hollow point) for 38 Special and 7.8-8.3 grains for 357s with the same bullets.

Hornady third edition says 4.1-4.6 grains for hollow point 38s, and nothing in this bullet weight for 357s.

Last, my Lyman 45th edition has nothing in this bullet weight for either caliber. Not helpful.

Here's what I found on Alliant's website:

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?page=/reloaders/powderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=1&cartridge=27


I was thinking of starting around 4.5 grains. That's on the hi end according to Hornady (published in 1980) and the low end for Speer (published in 1987).

Thoughts? Have you guys discovered recipes which work better?



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4.6gr of BE under a 158lrn makes for a pleasant .357 load @ about 1,000fps. not sure about the 125gr but that mold is prob next on my list to get

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4.6gr of BE under a 158lrn makes for a pleasant .357 load @ about 1,000fps. not sure about the 125gr but that mold is prob next on my list to get
Interesting. I loaded up a few with 4.6 grains and this bullet a few days ago so I'll let you know how it shoots after I try it out. It's in 38 Special cases, btw.
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Interesting. I loaded up a few with 4.6 grains and this bullet a few days ago so I'll let you know how it shoots after I try it out. It's in 38 Special cases, btw.
Alright so I promised you results and I finally made it to the range today so here we are. I loaded up 12 rounds each of 4.6 grains (Bullseye), 4.8 grains (Bullseye), 5.0 grains (Bullseye), and 6.1 grains of Power Pistol, just because I had some left over. All of these are using Winchester small pistol primers, 125 grain LRN bullets, in .38 Special cases.

I only took pictures of my first 6 shots groups for each load. All shots were single action (except for the last one - double action) from only about 5 yards. I was basically only testing function of loads and relative accuracy when I do everything the same. The gun used is my S&W 66-2, 2.5" bbl.



4.6 grains, Bullseye
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4.8 grains, Bullseye (yes, I had a flier. My own fault of course.)
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5.0 grains, Bullseye
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6.1 grains, Power Pistol
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I'm not 100% on which load this was. I should prolly have marked it but the above were more important to me. But it's double action for all six shots.
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All things considered, I'm very pleased with this powder. Much cleaner than my Silhouette that I was using before. And fairly accurate, too. Especially in the 4.8-5.0 range. Out of 48 shots total, I think I had three light primer strikes. Could have been my own fault with handloading. Could have been bad primers. Not sure. Also not worried about it. I know it's not the gun, so that's honestly what matters to me.

Was a good day!


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