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SteveK 04-17-2013 12:53 AM

30-06 Reloads
 
I Have a friend who has had some 30-06 ammo reloaded by two different people and the bullets won't work. He states that the bolt will not close all the way, it lacks about 1/8". I think maybe the brass was not sized correctly but wanted too get some more ideas.

spottedpony 04-17-2013 01:26 AM

The fact that two people loaded ammo and neither chambers correctly makes me wonder if he's got a rifle thats chambered on the tight side. Its always possible both parties only partially sized the brass or neck sized it only but thats a bit coincidental.
Possibly have a chamber cast done and mic the cast with a factory round as well as the handloads. small base dies may be in order.

Axxe55 04-17-2013 01:49 AM

sounds like maybe the bullets aren't seated deep enough. definately something is wrong.

another thing comes to mind, are the two reloaders knowledgeable enough to be reloading ammo for other people?

there are two people i trust to reload ammo for my firearms, myself or my father. i trust my father because he's the one who taught me a lot about reloading and he is much more a perfectionist than me.

spottedpony 04-17-2013 02:10 AM

Axxe brings up a good point about seating depth. An easy way to check is smoke the bullet with a candle. that is hold a candle flame under the bullet and smoke it until it turns black, chamber that round and eject it and check the bullet for rifling marks. (Remember to observe proper safety precautions.) What this means is the bullet is jammed against the rifling due to an excessive overall length. If such is the case DO NOT fire those rounds. Not having the bit of gap between bullet and rifling can lead to excessive pressure.

Axxe55 04-17-2013 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spottedpony (Post 1216301)
Axxe brings up a good point about seating depth. An easy way to check is smoke the bullet with a candle. that is hold a candle flame under the bullet and smoke it until it turns black, chamber that round and eject it and check the bullet for rifling marks. (Remember to observe proper safety precautions.) What this means is the bullet is jammed against the rifling due to an excessive overall length. If such is the case DO NOT fire those rounds. Not having the bit of gap between bullet and rifling can lead to excessive pressure.

very good point Spottedpony. exactly the method i use for shallow seating of my bullets that don't have a cannelure groove. the only difference is that i use a black magic marker and let it dry. shouldn't rub off as easily.

Txhillbilly 04-17-2013 05:33 AM

If the cases that were reloaded are from another rifle and weren't resized with a full length sizing die,that would be the first issue to check. Each rifle/barrel is different,and if the cases have just been neck sized,they will not fit in another gun 99% of the time. If the dies aren't properly set-up,that can cause issues also,by not setting the shoulder of the cases back. Case gauges come in very handy for correctly setting up sizing dies.
Bullet seating depth could also be the problem,but I'd bet money on it being a case sizing issue.

Axxe55 04-17-2013 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Txhillbilly (Post 1216552)
If the cases that were reloaded are from another rifle and weren't resized with a full length sizing die,that would be the first issue to check. Each rifle/barrel is different,and if the cases have just been neck sized,they will not fit in another gun 99% of the time. If the dies aren't properly set-up,that can cause issues also,by not setting the shoulder of the cases back. Case gauges come in very handy for correctly setting up sizing dies.
Bullet seating depth could also be the problem,but I'd bet money on it being a case sizing issue.

didn't think about that. i load cases shot from my rifles and reload them for that same rifle.

that's a good point and possible reason. every rifle can have variances in the chamber.

tri70 04-17-2013 12:02 PM

Does the factory ammo work ok? Check the COL of factory compared to the reloads.


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