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Old 04-29-2011, 11:00 PM   #1
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Default .222 lee factory crimp on .223?

I have never used a factory crimp die however I have a .222 factory crimp die with one of my sets. I am interested in crimping some of my .223 ammo and I am wondering if the factory crimp dies are universal in some cases like this?



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Old 04-30-2011, 12:54 AM   #2
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Case length may be an issue, the 222 is .060" shorter than the 223 and the Factory Crimp Dies are designed to use pressure from the shell holder and ram to push the collett up a tapered die, resulting the crimped case. The 223 die will probably squeeze shut before the 222 reaches the top of the die. If you could make a .060 spacer to set on top of you shell holder around the base of your case you could probably crimp the 222.

I think I would just get the 222 crimp die, but it may be one of their special or dies. I had to order one for my 9mm Makarov set and it only took a week to get, they already had some ready to ship and didn't have to built it right then.

It couldn't hurt to give it try though, .060 isn't much and both rounds are using the same diameter bullets.



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The die I have is the .222 factory crimp and I want to try it on .223

So the problem with doing this is 0.060 length difference in the case?

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The die I have is the .222 factory crimp and I want to try it on .223

So the problem with doing this is 0.060 length difference in the case?

Sorry about that.

It looks like the dies are open inside until they get to the top for the crimp, if my Lee set in 270 Win are any indication. So the .060" 223 extra length should be all that's needed to overcome, from the Lee manual the base, neck, web, nearly every aspect is the same between the two and the 221 Fireball as well.

I think the spacer should work with the longer case, if the 223 is going to be sticking up an extra .060" in the 222 die then adding the spacer to the shell holder will make it crimp .060 sooner.

Adding the .060 to the 223 die (as per my original suggestion) would have made the die close at .120 above the 222 neck, I must have gotten my numbers and dies all screwed up. I was in the middle of redesigning a safety button for left-hand shooters and had a lot of numbers running through my head, I really should quit posting things in a hurry.
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