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 08-30-2009, 03:55 AM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 15 |  Your thoughts on a Saiga 410 for home defense.
Is a saiga 410 ok for home defense. Not alone but with a pistol or 2 and an AR and/or M1. I was looking at the 12 ga saiga but the 410 would be a lot more fun to shoot.
I mean, I'm getting an AR! That should support my insecurity, right?
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| 08-30-2009, 05:05 AM | #2 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 |
Just my opinion, but I wouldn't use a .410 for home or self defense. I have a short barreled 12ga. loaded with 00 buckshot within arms reach of my bed and a .357 in the nightstand.
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| 08-30-2009, 06:24 AM | #3 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 6,267 |
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Originally Posted by jsanders
Is a saiga 410 ok for home defense. Not alone but with a pistol or 2 and an AR and/or M1. I was looking at the 12 ga saiga but the 410 would be a lot more fun to shoot.
I mean, I'm getting an AR! That should support my insecurity, right?
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| 08-30-2009, 07:15 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 1,262 |
.410 slug is the equal of a .45 (I belive). I doubt anyone would want to be on the reciving end of one. Especailly in the 3" chamber type. Probably not the best gun for HD but I dont feel outgunned when I have mine sitting out! Even more so in hollow point. I'd prefer a 12 or 20g w/buckshot. If its what ya got, then make the best of it! __________________
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| 08-30-2009, 08:09 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Evangeline, Louisiana Posts: 359 |
Seeing as how my first line of defense is a 5 shot 357 revolver, I would be pretty stupid to say no. Unless my house backed up to a paramilitary gang's headquarters I would say a 410 with all that back up would be fine. __________________
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| 08-30-2009, 11:19 AM | #6 | Supporting Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,749 |
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Originally Posted by jsanders
Is a saiga 410 ok for home defense. Not alone but with a pistol or 2 and an AR and/or M1. I was looking at the 12 ga saiga but the 410 would be a lot more fun to shoot.
I mean, I'm getting an AR! That should support my insecurity, right?
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There is nothing wrong with a .410, especially since you have better weapons available. Saiga make excellent weapons and a .410 would be fun to shoot! __________________ *** Don't Mess With TEXAS *** Μολὼν λάβε | |
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| 08-30-2009, 05:01 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 1,262 |
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There is nothing wrong with a .410, especially since you have better weapons available. Saiga make excellent weapons and a .410 would be fun to shoot!
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lol, .410's are a absolute blast to shoot!  __________________
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| 10-24-2009, 01:23 AM | #8 | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 29 |
Like others have said, the 410 is really fun to shoot. And in a pinch can be adequate for HD. For years, I kept one in the corner of the bedroom. It was a singleshot, but I had one of those ammo sleeves slipped over the stock. I had a selection of slugs, buckshot, and birdshot right there on the gun. And it could be 'primed' really quick. I have a link to a good story about using the 410 with slugs on deer. Lists Pros and Cons. But really has some useful info.
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| 10-24-2009, 02:29 AM | #9 | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 15 |
I love this! I was out today and just messing around. I had the 410 with 000 buck shot with me...oh...and i had a couple beer cans.
I put them on some lumber I threw away awhile back. At 35 ft it went though the wood...5 and 1/4 (i have no idea how to write that). 4 clean holes through the target in a 3 inch group. 1 shot.
Knock down? Yeah I think so. And the poor cans...holy moly.
Think about multiple targets in your hallway, what 15 or 20 ft? They wouldn't have a chance. __________________
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| 10-24-2009, 02:41 AM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 102 | Use 00 or 000 buckshot in your .410
Federal, Winchester and S&B all make 00B or 000B loads for the .410
At indoor home defense range, any of these will stay on a paper plate size target. A man hit by four (.36 caliber / 70 grain) 000B pellets in the chest, will not be concerned about the gauge of the gun from which the pellets were fired!
A reliable semi-automatic .410 , particularly one fed by a detachable magazine, would be a formidable close range defense weapon. | |
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