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jimogden1984 04-15-2013 05:43 AM

winchester model 97
 
What do you guys know about the model 97? Had a 30 inch barrel, my biggest question is can you use any modern shells? I believe mine was made in 1928...I've never shot it, was my grandpa's and now it's mine. Took it to a smith to get cleaned up and looked over to make sure its safe to fire, here said it probably had 40 years of dust and dirt but its good to go. Thinking about taking it turkey hunting this year. Its the e series which from what I read but any other interesting info would new greatly appreciated

nitestalker 04-15-2013 05:58 AM

The old 97 had short chambers in 12 Ga. Modern shells will fire OK. A problem occurs when the longer shell is fired the crimp becomes tight in the chamber. The additional force needed to remove the spent shells over stresses the extractors and they are often broken. It is easy to have the the chamber "opened" up to accommodate the modern shells.:)


http://www.gunreports.com/special_reports/long_guns/Older-Shotgun-Chamber-Maintenance155-1.html

gunsmoke11 04-15-2013 07:58 AM

The Winchester 1897 is one of my favorite shotguns. You'll see them in many westerns like The Wild Bunch, The Professionals and early gangster films. Mine's the riot version "C" series made in 1900 and normally I use birdshot, but I've shot oo buck as well. They're fine with modern ammo, but do not use steel shot, only lead. For home defense I'd recommend oooo buckshot.
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fortinsj 04-15-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gunsmoke11
The Winchester 1897 is one of my favorite shotguns. You'll see them in many westerns like The Wild Bunch, The Professionals and early gangster films. Mine's the riot version "C" series made in 1900 and normally I use birdshot, but I've shot oo buck as well. They're fine with modern ammo, but do not use steel shot, only lead. For home defense I'd recommend oooo buckshot.

Gunsmoke what kind of butt stock shell holder is that?

cottontop 04-15-2013 12:59 PM

They are great old guns. Modern shells are fine. Do not use steel shot, however. One of John Browning's greatest inventions.
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jimogden1984 04-15-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1214455)
The old 97 had short chambers in 12 Ga. Modern shells will fire OK. A problem occurs when the longer shell is fired the crimp becomes tight in the chamber. The additional force needed to remove the spent shells over stresses the extractors and they are often broken. It is easy to have the the chamber "opened" up to accommodate the modern shells.:)

http://www.gunreports.com/special_reports/long_guns/Older-Shotgun-Chamber-Maintenance155-1.html

The website said if it doesn't specify a chamber length then it may be 2 9/16...since mine doesn't would it be better to try and find some of that length? Would 2 3/4 be bad for it at all?

gunsmoke11 04-15-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fortinsj (Post 1214538)
Gunsmoke what kind of butt stock shell holder is that?

I had gotten one for my shotgun as well as for my 7mm Steyr Mannlicher, but it was quite a while ago and I can't remember who I purchased them from and their name isn't on it. There are others very similar on the internet like the Fox Butt Stock Cheek Rest Cartridge Carrier and one made by Blackhawk. Check Amazon, which seems to have the best price and type in Butt Stock Ammo Pouch Cheekpiece. You have plenty to choose from.

akers06 04-15-2013 09:58 PM

Modern shells are fine I have a Winchester 1911 made in 1919 and I have shot the 2 3/4" baby mag Turkey shells out of it just fine

elfmdl 04-15-2013 10:29 PM

My grandpa gave me his 97 as well, I removed more dirt from that gun than every other gun I have cleaned in my life put together. I took it to my local gunsmith to have it check and he told me to shoot light loads only, so I wouldn't use it for turkey hunting, you wouldn't be able to safely use a powerful enough shell, it would have to much pressure.

jimogden1984 04-15-2013 10:50 PM

I just don't wanna do anything that could hurt the gun in any way, its too old and been in the family for too long to take any chances. I also took mine to a gun smith to be cleaned and gone over by a pro, he said it probably had 40 years of dirt in it. And there's no telling how long it sat in many grandpa's attic below he passed a few years ago. It probably hasn't been fired in atleast 20, quite possibly much longer


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