The problem w/ most of the inexpensive 20 gauges is that even though they are a 20 ga, they are built on 12 ga frames. I'm sure this is a cost cutting decision by the manufacturer. The Remington 1100 is made on a smaller frame, but I don't like to let young shooters use an auto. A pump is much safer. The Ithaca M37 20 ga is made on a scaled down frame and I believe the M870 Rem. is also.