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Old 04-12-2012, 03:07 PM   #31
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I would not hesitate to use my 20ga on an intruder. Inside the house is pretty close range. I'd feel comfortable that I'd hit my target and not go through a wall and accidentally hit one of my children. But, seriously, I'd use whatever method of deadly force I had at hand to defend my home and family.

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The shotgun is better for home defence because you don't have to actually aim the gun you can point it and it'd goons hit your Target I believe that to be the number one reason
Well not exactly.....aim is equally important with a shotgun. Across a 15' room 00Buck will pattern 3-4". Don't ask me how I know......
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No question, a shotgun is the best home defense weapon.

They have a higher margin of error. As long as you're close enough you just have to point center mass and it's pretty certain you're going to stop them. You can also buy loads that have a much lower chance of going through walls. And as everyone pointed out, that sounds of one chambering a shell makes a lot of people think twice about what they're doing.

One problem I could see is a full size shotgun isn't always practical not only for maneuverability, if you needed it, or for someone that is smaller. I don't have a shotgun yet. I'm about to buy one to get into trap, but I would love to get one of the Kel Tec defensive models if anyone ever has them in for more than a few seconds.

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Well not exactly.....aim is equally important with a shotgun. Across a 15' room 00Buck will pattern 3-4". Don't ask me how I know......
That's correct. On a home defense shotgun, assuming an uncooked 18.5" barrel, you can expect a 1-1.5" increase in spread for every yard the shot flies. For an un-choked 18.5" barrel, 15 feet = 5 yards, so roughly a 5" pattern. That's on an UN-CHOKED, or cylindrical short barrel. Easily down to 3-4" with a choke or longer barrel.

Shotguns leave the largest wound channel with the highest margin for error complete with the least potential for over penetration. I would prefer buckshot over birdshot, due to the 12" penetration on ballistic gel you would want to ensure the proper penetration on a human target to hit and disrupt the central nervous system, or CNS. Don't get me wrong, birdshot will hurt like hell, could knock them down, and could kill them as well, but if you add in the multiple layers of clothing one might be wearing, you run in to penetration issues. 40 holes 2" deep after clothing hurts like hell, I bet, but I would rather send 8-12 buckshot rounds at you. Then clothing is much less likely to matter as much, and the effect is similar to getting shot by 8-12 .38 special rounds AT THE SAME TIME IN ALMOST THE SAME PLACE. Plus, you stand a much greater chance of reaching the spine, or CNS, and putting the BG on the ground with your first shot.

I love my AR15, but I have a special mossberg 500 for anyone who steps in my house uninvited with I'll will towards my family. Collapsable stock, 18.5" home defense barrel, sidesaddle shots hell holder, 6 on the weak side of the receiver and 3 more on the weak side of the stock, barrel mounted picatinny tri-rail on the end, fits perfect since the barrel hangs over the magazine tune by about 3", and on it sits a streamlight TLR-1 with a remote coil switch that runs back to the thumb side of the forend, so the light is completely useable without removing my hands from the firing and rechambering actions. Plus a little red laser for point and shoot, just in case. Does it serve any purpose other than home defense? Nope. Am I confident it serves that one purpose as well as it possibly could? You bet your ass.
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Say what? Rock salt is guaranteed to leave an eternally and

internally lasting impression. Ever step on a nail? Now

try to imagine the entire wound channel is filled with salt,

X 20...
search urben ledgions rock salt does not have enough mass never tried it myself but makes sense
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search urben ledgions rock salt does not have enough mass never tried it myself but makes sense
It works I've been shot by it goofing around with my buddies when I was younger.....talk about a hurt like no other
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search urben ledgions rock salt does not have enough mass never tried it myself but makes sense
Why don't you just let somebody shoot you in the butt with

that "urban legend" and tell us what you think then?

I can tell you personally this really is a "rural legend". Given a choice

between hyper-extending my knee, or getting shot again with rock

salt, I'll readily take the knee injury.
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The main reason I prefer a shotgun over a rifle for home defense is the penetration of the projectile. A .308 rifle round will not only enter and exit the target, but possibly pass through the outside wall of your home and hit your neighbor while he's in bed sleeping. Yes, you do have to aim, you can't count on the "sound" to scare off the intruder and you better have a tactical light on your shotgun.

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The main reason I prefer a shotgun over a rifle for home defense is the penetration of the projectile. A .308 rifle round will not only enter and exit the target, but possibly pass through the outside wall of your home and hit your neighbor while he's in bed sleeping. Yes, you do have to aim, you can't count on the "sound" to scare off the intruder and you better have a tactical light on your shotgun.
BOOYAH!!

Agreed, target identification is CRUCIAL for home defense situations. A flashlight on the gun doesn't mean it has to always be on, note the remote coil switch to the forend.
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There are a lot of people out there that are afraid to handle a 12 gauge or even a 20 gauge shotgun. Dont sell a 410 short if the 12 or 20 is too much. 410 buckshot is 3-000 balls each 36 caliber and 70 grains. A short barreled 410 pump is a nasty weapon that can be easily handled by smaller shooters.
For those that are willing to step up to 20 gauge, Savage makes a nice little semi auto in a defense configuration available with a shorter stock. The semi will mitigate some of the recoil and no chance of short stroking.

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