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Old 06-20-2012, 04:56 PM   #11
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You can find them in stores a lot easier around turkey season.

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Visit KY walmarts. There are normally a lot of them on he shelves here.

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12 ga 3 1/2 Slugs! As stated who needs them! And how many have you fired? Better you than me when they are not necessary to start with. I do not have any elephants or cape buffalo here in Tennessee "LOL"

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Oops sorry didn't read the slugs part. Still not to hard to find in Lex. Would NOT wanna shoot those regular.

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The additional shell length on the 3.5 is for shot, not powder. Since waterfowling is limited to non-lead shot, needing a larger shot size, a 3.5 steel shot is about equal to a 3 inch lead shot shell.

Since the slug is lead, it really gains nothing by the extra half inch of shell.
That was pretty much what I was thinking. And I figure if you can't gain anything then having a more compact shell would be more of an advantage for storage and mag capacity.

So, they're probably scarce because no one wants a larger shell that gains them nothing.
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any of you guys ever think people just want things because they can ?
That's just it...because my shotgun can feed them! Everyone knows that when someone says "you don't need that" it makes you want it even more (just the kid in me I suspose), though I'm 37. Now I've read contradictory posts here. The logical reasoning (that I wasn't aware of by the way) that the extra half inch doesn't provide more powder makes the round an excercise in futility doesn't jive with the recoil comments. I have however learned something here, thank you all!!
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i'm wincing just reading 3.5" and slug in the same sentence.I shot 2 rounds of 3" 1oz slugs a few weeks ago and set the gun down and decided to not do that again!If a 3.5" can do the job than a 2.75" can just the same.

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i'm wincing just reading 3.5" and slug in the same sentence.I shot 2 rounds of 3" 1oz slugs a few weeks ago and set the gun down and decided to not do that again!If a 3.5" can do the job than a 2.75" can just the same.
I sighted in my guns with 2 3/4" 300 grain slugs with a velocity of 2000fps (Hornady SST's). After a couple of those and a few high velocity sluggers, I had a recoil induced headache.

I dread when I have to do it again next season .

It's worth it though. Those SST's are as accurate as a centerfire at 200 yards. I'm in a shotgun only area, but with those, I'm not really at too big of a disadvantage to the rifle guys during whitetail season.
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The additional shell length on the 3.5 is for shot, not powder. Since waterfowling is limited to non-lead shot, needing a larger shot size, a 3.5 steel shot is about equal to a 3 inch lead shot shell.

Since the slug is lead, it really gains nothing by the extra half inch of shell.
So that being said, is there a powder difference in 2 3/4" vs 3" (forgive my ignorance)...I have to admit that I use 3 1/2" #4 buck over 3" #4 buck for mountain coyotes in VA because I thought there was a powder difference. Am I better off or not?
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So that being said, is there a powder difference in 2 3/4" vs 3" (forgive my ignorance)...I have to admit that I use 3 1/2" #4 buck over 3" #4 buck for mountain coyotes in VA because I thought there was a powder difference. Am I better off or not?
Here's a few facts on those 12 gauge loads:
A 3" #4 shot shell has 41- 20.7 grain pellets moving at 1225fps.A 3.5" #4 shot shell has 54- 20.7 grain pellets moving at 1050fps.Energy per pellet from the 3" shell is 69 ft lbs energy.Energy per pellet from the 3.5" shell is 51 ft lbs energy.Total combined energy from the 3" shell is 2829 ft lbs energy.Total combined energy from the 3.5" shell is 2737 ft lbs energy. my opinion-I don't think it makes one bit of difference what you use between these choices,except you may get a hair more penetration on the 3"..and I mean a hair literally,like one hair deeper on that coyote.
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