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Old 07-10-2013, 12:29 AM   #11
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There is nothing prohibititing a person sending their own gun to themselves in another state. It's not a transfer, it's not a sale...it's merely shipping a private possession to yourself, "in care of" the addressee.

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Archametes- what Axxe said is correct. NOTHING in Federal law refers to a functioning firearm. Legally, the receiver IS the gun- everything else is just parts. I can mail the the barrel, cylinder, grips, hammer, trigger and springs of a revolver- quite legally. But the frame (receiver) is a gun, and short of cutting it up with a torch, or melting it into a puddle, nothing changes that.

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Sorry, I mis spoke. By 'registered', I meant that there is a Form 4473 on it somewhere if it was sold since 1968.

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What if it were shipped in pieces? Such as barrel, receiver, stock, forend assembly, and mag tube. All of which can be packaged separate and don't constitute a "gun" since without the other parts its inoperable. Just a suggestion...
Try saying that with a stripped lower and see what the Feds have to say!
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Sorry, I mis spoke. By 'registered', I meant that there is a Form 4473 on it somewhere if it was sold since 1968.
I don't think you mis spoke at all. When a gun is sold, the serial number appears on the 4473 along with the name of the purchaser. The FFL dealer who sold the gun has to keep those records indefinetely, in case the BATF should need to review that dealers records. To me, that is registering.
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If it isn't registered, is it legal? Did you buy it from a private individual? If it was bought from a dealer since 1968, it is registered in the system somewhere. As long as it is a legal firearm, you can have it shipped to an FFL holder near you, there is a list on GunBroker. Or you could bring it back in checked luggage.
Registration...? Legal?!
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There is nothing prohibititing a person sending their own gun to themselves in another state. It's not a transfer, it's not a sale...it's merely shipping a private possession to yourself, "in care of" the addressee.
The fact that it is being shipped through a carrier in interstate transfer, you basically falls under the carrier's guidelines and the fact that it is across state lines means it falls under federal jurisdiction and therefore interstate Commerce Commission, BATFE and any other fed agency can get involved.

FWIW, My wife suggested breaking up the gun, shipping all the parts sans receiver, then carry receiver back on airline. Still mist be in locked box, but an ammo can would more than handle it and you wouldn't be charged the oversize up charge that normally goes with long rifle cases. Also, TSA wouldn't be up-in-arms about a weapon on the plane, as it is only a partial with no other pieces to assemble.
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Legal as in "not stolen".

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Legal as in "not stolen".
No it's not stolen. If it was would i (or the gentleman i bought it from) admit it?
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[QUOTE=TekGreg;1300961]The fact that it is being shipped through a carrier in interstate transfer, you basically falls under the carrier's guidelines and the fact that it is across state lines means it falls under federal jurisdiction and therefore interstate Commerce Commission, BATFE and any other fed agency can get involved.

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The BATF website addresses this situation, and is very clear as to who may ship and how to ship. My response is a direct reflection of their explaination.

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