[JonM]

Between 000 00 and slugs in the same shell dimension it depends on what shot weighs more. A slug tends to be heavier than buckshot of either weight so will have more felt recoil.

It takes more effort to get a heavy projectile going than a light one. So there is more force exerted on the firearm from firing a heavier shot load. Also the faster something is launched as in "magnum" type loads it also increases recoil over "non-magnum" loads.

[oli700]

Originally Posted by robocop10mm

In a shotgun Magnum generally means heavier payload at comparable velocity/pressure.

this is the way it is .....not related to dirty harry

[johnbrowning]

IMHO any shell longer than 2 3/4 inches is a magnum. And any shell with a high brass base is a hotter load than a short brass base.

[oli700]

Originally Posted by johnbrowning

And any shell with a high brass base is a hotter load than a short brass base.

nope, high brass is not related to charge either

[1911love]

Oil700
My Saiga 12 (stock config.) will cycle high brass, but not low brass. If not related to charge, what is high/low brass related to?

[303tom]

Magnum in Shot Shells = The maximum amount of powder to the maximum amount of shot............

[oli700]

Originally Posted by 1911love

Oil700
My Saiga 12 (stock config.) will cycle high brass, but not low brass. If not related to charge, what is high/low brass related to?

There is a difference between target loads(your low brass) and hunting loads(your high brass)that’s the way you should be looking at it

Your hunting loads happen to have high brass. A low brass turkey load has more energy than a high brass low recoil 00 buck. Will Federal PD133 00 buck cycle your Saiga? (Not in my exp without mods to the gas block)

I can take your low brass or low steel target load and reload a 1650 fps 1 ounce slug in it that will cycle the bolt out of your Russian shotgun, pick up the shell and reload it hot about 6 or 7 more times before I throw it out.


If you do some research, and not gun forum research, you will find high brass was created to help extraction purposes. The loads having the need were high power loads. The marketing began and forever the two have been linked. These days it’s not the case, but people still relate the two because everyone talks about the brass head like it is what propels the pay load

[oli700]

Originally Posted by JonM

A slug tends to be heavier than buckshot of either weight so will have more felt recoil
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huh ? the weights are either 1 oz or 1 1/8 oz.
The heavier felt recoil of a slug is the same reason a 1 oz slug has a higher pressure spike than a 1 oz 00 buck .
Solid projo VS. Multiple small projos is the reason the slug recoils "harder" than a load made of pellets. All conditions equal the sold projo will have higher pressure, recoil harder and penetrate farther.