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Old 05-06-2013, 03:19 AM   #11
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It seems like all the big publications are just becoming ad sources for the companies. Even if they tested the UTS and hated it, I bet they would still call it awesome, just to go with pop culture.
they arent becoming anything. the gun rags have been this way since publication day #1. if you pick up a gun rag expecting honest reviews your going to be buying an aweful lot of schlock items
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:25 AM   #12
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they arent becoming anything. the gun rags have been this way since publication day #1. if you pick up a gun rag expecting honest reviews your going to be buying an aweful lot of schlock items
Yep. Many, if not all, gun writers are simply salesmen.
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FPS Russia and Hickok 45 all had problems with this gun and Hickok doesnt try to make a gun look bad, in fact a plastic piece broke off the shotgun (the barrel selector) while he was shooting it. FPS Russia went through like 3-4 of them and he wasnt doing a review either.
When THREE of the biggest gun reviewers on youtube all have problems with a gun, that's not good. Take the $1200 you'd blow on this gun and go buy a Mossberg 500, and RIA 1911, a Mosin Nagant 91/30, and about $200-$300 worth of ammo. You'd be much happier.
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When THREE of the biggest gun reviewers on youtube all have problems with a gun, that's not good. Take the $1200 you'd blow on this gun and go buy a Mossberg 500, and RIA 1911, a Mosin Nagant 91/30, and about $200-$300 worth of ammo. You'd be much happier.
Well stated.
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I have personally shot this gun, (not mine). I think the gun comes off with a quality feel. Well built. On shooting it; it will in fact not cycle correctly if you don't give it a FULL stroke, and you have to do it like you mean it. I think this could be a problem, if used in a defense situation. I think it's bulky. I also think the gun would be WAY better in a semi-auto configuration. Being a pump doesn't really make any sense to me......

Would I buy one? No. If it were a semi? Probably not, but only because of cost issues.

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I have personally shot this gun, (not mine). I think the gun comes off with a quality feel. Well built. On shooting it; it will in fact not cycle correctly if you don't give it a FULL stroke, and you have to do it like you mean it. I think this could be a problem, if used in a defense situation. I think it's bulky. I also think the gun would be WAY better in a semi-auto configuration. Being a pump doesn't really make any sense to me......

Would I buy one? No. If it were a semi? Probably not, but only because of cost issues.
Did you have any problems with the pretty liberal amount of plastic on the gun?
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A couple of weeks back I went to visit a fellow gun nut in PA who bought one of these "things". After firing about 25 rounds through it, I was not impressed. It felt cheap, was hard to cycle even with a vertical fore grip, and just didn't feel right in my hands. I told my friend what I thought of his new toy, and told him I myself would sell it and buy a 500 and an 870 instead. He loves it, I wouldn't take one as a gift. The model 500 bullpup was better made than the UTS 15 IMO.

Just MHO, YMMV.

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Did you have any problems with the pretty liberal amount of plastic on the gun?
No, not really. It didn't feel cheap to me. A gun like this, if it had any amount of metal on it, it would weigh a ton. My opinion is as long as the gun was designed this way, not an issue. If a manufacturer starts replacing metal parts on an existing gun with plastic, to cheapen it, that's where I have a problem.....
I do agree with Kfox75 about cycling it. I didn't have THAT much trouble, and I bet it could be overcome with training, but, still. I'd rather see it as a semi.
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