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Old 06-14-2014, 05:47 PM   #1
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join in. go on the www and find some real costs to registered shooting out in the nation.
lets make this thread to cast light on just how good a deal it is to get free matches at the ftf shoot and hoots.
i'll start. this ones off the www. its in va. this summer. daily fees means you still must pay for your targets, (games.) say if its 8.00 a game...thats 32.00 more dollars on top of the purse cost.
the more the shooters, the higher the pay off.
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IWLL will host a ATA registered trapshoot Saturday June14. Targets $17 per 100 plus daily fees.
Handicap Mid -50 purse will top $1375, run traps 2& 3 and take home 1/2 the purse(ties divide).
Long Run purse on Handicap, $10 entry if we get 5+ entries the park will add $50 to purse.
10 participants in Handicap Lewis and we add $50.
Lunch available on the grounds.
HOA-$1 per adult entry to purse.
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32.00(i/e) 4 games
17.00 for 100 scored birds.(4 boxes)
10.00 for lewis option.
10.00 for high score on handicap line.
10.00 for handicap lewis.
1.00 hoa
48.00 6 practice games
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128.00 for the day. and thats just trap!

add food cost.
add ammo cost.






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so......at the ftf shoot, you get 250 birds for 50.00.
18.00 to 30.00 for clays.
total 65.00 to 80.00.
making sense now? watch as more chime in.

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That and golf are too expensive for me. The high cost of shooting matches just make it too expensive when you figure in all of the costs.

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and...i didnt even figure in the truth that you must hold an ata or nssa membership card!

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A local shooting center charges $9 per 25 targets so that 250 birds is $90. For that, you get to pull/score your own, no one does anything for you. If you want instruction, it's $75 per hour for a minimally trained 'certified' instructor who has never 'been there, done that' - and that is for a BASIC shotgun beginning course. No advanced level stuff.
Is this starting to make the shoot 'n hoot look like a deal? It should.

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oh...dont get me going on the current instruction craze going on out there!
people cant make money shooting competition, so they teach it. hey, ok...no problem....its a good thing, but no brain needed, just take the brains nra or nssa sells you and you teach what they designed.
so people get the same training no matter where they go! no personal inputs received. its too generic.


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so....anyone find any more shoots coming up that can get posted here?

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The Livermore-Pleasanton Rod & Gun Club in Livermore, CA is proud to host the ATA Western Zone Shoot July 17 to 20, 2014. This is the third, and last, of our "big shoots" of the year.

$2,300 added money
$713.50 in Perfect 50s
$500 added money to shooters' $1,000 to hit a 100-straight in handicap (club pays 50% for the 100-straight in a handicap event)
1,000 targets

$32/100 targets ($20 for juniors and sub-juniors not playing options)
$3 CGSTA daily fee + $3 ATA daily fee + $1.50/100 targets Western Zone fee
$359 to shoot all events

Thursday 7/17
Event 1: 100 Singles
Event 2: 100 Handicap
Event 3: 100 Handicap

Friday 7/18
Event 4: 50 pair Class Doubles
Event 5: 100 Class Day (Preliminary) Handicap
Event 6: 100 Class Singles

Saturday 7/19
Event 7: Western Zone Singles Championship--200 targets

$700 Added Money across 6 classes 50/30/20% High Gun​

Sunday 7/20
Event 8: Western Zone Doubles Championship--50 pair Doubles

$700 Added Money across 6 classes 50/30/20% High Gun​
Event 9: Western Zone Handicap Championship--100 targets

$900 Added Money across 3 yardage groups 50/30/20% High Gun​

Livermore Pleasanton-Rod & Gun Club
4000 Dagnino Road
Livermore, California

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and some of you can barely shoot 125 birds in a day? try 300...with a mossberg. lol

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Plus 4-5 days stay in a hotel, meals, transportation to/from, lost wages for taking Thu/Fri off from work - that weekend would set you back $1500 or more. Chance of winning that much back - slim to none. 'Added Money" draws the big guys like ants to honey. They will be shooting off - or dividing - the 'added money'. The average guy is donating.
This is the main reason - but far from the ONLY reason - that I quit registered shooting. Joe Average has no chance at a shoot of any size, he is just the Cash Cow.

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Well of course the average guy has no chance in a big match. The seasoned competitor knows the area. He is going to be eating home cooking and sleeping in a soft bed. Joe the Plumber is going to be sleeping at motel 6 and eating clown food.

It is the same way with any type of competition. Seasoned competitors are going to have every advantage.

If you don't break 100 straight in trap with a 20/28 ga quite often you have no business at a big match. It's not a rip off. You are throwing your money away trying to beat many shooters who consider your best match a joke.

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