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Old 04-02-2013, 07:44 PM   #11
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What is slam firing?

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Slam firing is when you pull the trigger of a pump shotgun to fire and while holding the trigger back it's only necessary to keep pumping in order to fire the weapon. Shotguns manufactured today are not allowed to function that way. Each shot requires the pulling the trigger. Slam firing rapidly can be very devastating when up close and personal.

I used the old Ithaca model 37 Deerslayer while in LE, which you were also able to slam fire. Back then the Ithaca was my preferred shotgun compared to the Remington 870, which was also authorized.

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Thanks Gunsmoke. Can a Winchester 1897 slam fire?

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Thanks Gunsmoke. Can a Winchester 1897 slam fire?
You're very welcome and yes, the old '97 Winchester can be slam fired.
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Cool, I've really been wanting one. I saw some at a gun show recently that were around $500-600. What would be a good price for an early model?

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Cool, I've really been wanting one. I saw some at a gun show recently that were around $500-600. What would be a good price for an early model?
There are many cut down 1897's that are being inaccurately sold as original riot guns and some are just an honest mistake. Trench guns are more difficult to fake for obvious reasons. Original riots have 20" barrels that are all stamped "cyl" and are usually non take down, though some later versions were take down.

But even a cut down version in nice shape can bring $500. They're very popular with cowboy shooters. A good original riot will bring an average $700 and up depending on condition, though prices for everything lately has gotten insane. A $1000+ asking price would not be unusual if in beautiful condition.

These shotguns lead the way for standards used on all other pumps that followed. Mine was mfg in 1900, which proves if taken care of they can last well over a hundred years. An actual letter from Winchester guarantees it's originality. With their exposed hammer they're great looking guns too.
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Thanks again Gunsmoke. I'm going to do some more research and prob pick one up as money permits. Now if I could only figure out how to save up enough for a BAR and a Superposed!

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Gunsmoke, how are they to field strip and clean? Are parts available?

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Gunsmoke, how are they to field strip and clean? Are parts available?
I've never had any reason to take my pumps apart. I simply use my cleaning rod for the bore and first use powder solvent on whatever I can reach in the action. I then wipe it dry and oil it. I use gunslick on moving parts of all my guns as well, which really keeps the action smooth. Sometimes it's best not to take things apart, or even necessary. There were many 97's made and there should be parts available, but I've never needed any.
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Thanks Gunsmoke. Now comes the hard part, finding the cash for a 97.

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