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Old 09-17-2012, 06:19 PM   #11
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I don't pretend to be the most knowledgeable about shotguns. I mean I have a few, and use them for bird hunting and on occasion deer. So please forgive the ignorant question that follows.

Why would steel shot harm any type of shotgun barrel? I mean its encased in a plastic wad. Which is why, I assume, that you can fire tungsten shot with a steel barrel.

it's prolly a, "just in case" thing. bein as damascus steel barrels were made by combinin two bars of steel, heated and hammered, heated and hammered together then wrapped around a center rod to make the "barrel," there is/was a warning put out with steel shot when it first came out.

even tho damascus barreled shotguns are still made today, the older guns were most likely (MAYBE) made with a lower grade steel than today's damascus shotties. even so, the barrels aren't a solid, and monolithic steel component.......the barrel is two, heated and hammered together.


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If a barrel IS NOT designed for steel shot, it can and will wear them out with constant use. The steel shot is harder than the barrel, and must use higher velocities to have it preform the way it should, as it is lighter than steel shot gets wet and rusts in the hull, it can possible shoot like a slug, ring your barrel, or over pressure it when it doesn't compress and yea may go BOOM lol.

That's about all I got lol.


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Higher velocites I get if using the same weight. But hardness of the barrel in direct relation to the shot itself? I am having a hard time wrapping my mind round it as there is essentially a cushion between the barrel and the shot.

I guess it really doesnt matter. I don't own any guns with a damascus barrel. And likely wont. Its just more of a curiosity thing.
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dependin on your choke size, shot is compressed into a tighter lil "packet" before it exits the barrel. that is,.....with lead shot (or any malleable shot) it can deform and each individual pellet can "compress" against the next pellet. so, in all theory, lead shot can compress and distort as it forms to a barrel's diameter.

steel shot, on the other hand, WILL NOT compress or deform. it is what it is. and you are right about the cup wadding......it is supposed to protect the barrel from such things. but when steel first came out, manufacturers warned about shootin them in damascus barrels. due in part to the hardness of the steel shot, but also due to the barrel bein what it was...........damascus. two steel rods hammered and folded, and forged and twisted together around a center "gauge" pole.
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If your choke is too tight and not made out of the right stuff, large steel or tungsten alloy shot can damage it. Saw a lot of that when steel first came along with older fixed choke shotgun barrels. Plastic shot cups have gotten better, but I wouldn't risk it.
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Newer shotgun barrels that are "steel shot rated" are significantly harder than their lead shot predecessors. The protective cup (wad) cannot completely cushion and isolate the steel shot. The plastic wad is SIGNIFICANTLY softer than the shoot.

If you are still doubtful, go ahead and do whatever makes sense to you. Just don't come crying to us when your shotgun (or your face) gets ruined by the excessinve pressures of steel shot loads.

Back to the OP's question, Rifled slugs and buckshot will absolutely not harm a barrel unless you have a very tight choke (full, extra full or "turkey).
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Not necessarily.

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Can Brenneke USA slugs be used in either a rifle barrel or smooth bore barrel?

Yes - - all slugs, with the exception of the Brenneke Gold Magnum and all brass Super Sabot can be used. Both of these slugs are designed to be used only in full-rifled barrels and must not be fired from any type of choked barrel.
Using the proper slugs, yes.
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Newer shotgun barrels that are "steel shot rated" are significantly harder than their lead shot predecessors. The protective cup (wad) cannot completely cushion and isolate the steel shot. The plastic wad is SIGNIFICANTLY softer than the shoot.

If you are still doubtful, go ahead and do whatever makes sense to you. Just don't come crying to us when your shotgun (or your face) gets ruined by the excessinve pressures of steel shot loads.

Back to the OP's question, Rifled slugs and buckshot will absolutely not harm a barrel unless you have a very tight choke (full, extra full or "turkey).
Im not doubtful, just confused. Like I said Im not supper shotty girl here. Ive got three, one has never been fired and never will. A DU model 870 daddy won back in the seventies, a newer 870 and my lil 870 20 gauge youth model that Ive had since I was a kid.
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There is no need to fire shells loaded with steel shot other than for waterfowl hunting near wetlands. It is perfectly legal to use lead shot when pass shooting waterfowl on high ground. You still need a duck stamp no matter how you choose to bag your duck for the obligatory holiday turducken.
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That depends entirely on where you live. I would advise you against giving advise like that.

In one state in which I lived even if you were hunting duck or goose from a field you were required to use steel shot. Any waterfowl required steel shot.


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