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Old 12-14-2013, 07:22 PM   #11
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hey gvw....nice to have you make a cameo appearence! is that con man ryan42 still posting tff? geesh what id give to kick his butt.
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I totally agree with cheap handguns. I want the good stuff. No Hi-Points at my house. As for over/under shotguns, in his price range, used or new, to me, the best options are the Browning 725 Sporting, the Fabarm Axis RS 12, or a Beretta 682. Fabarm's customer service is second to none. Beretta, not so much. Browning, love them, a best value for the money.
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hey gvw....nice to have you make a cameo appearence! is that con man ryan42 still posting tff? geesh what id give to kick his butt.
I am around here just don't post much. I come here to keep up with your threads. Ryan is gone. Last I heard some one was pretty upset with him but I can't remember why.
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was it me or did he burn someone else?
still love to have you 2 show up in april. you 2 were the best students of the meet.
too bad shooter45 missed a good deal to help boost his herd. ftf here knows a good deal when they see it....and they have my 100% loyalty. no looking back.
we'll be doing podcasts next.
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Bobski - My neck is relatively long, collar size used to be 17.5-18 for a tie but that was when I was 205 lb and now I'm around 155 lbs n trying to hold that.

I recently shot a Browning Cynergy w adj comb (owner had it set all the way down and to the right) and I shot it rather well. I hated the square trigger guard style. I was hoping he might want to sell it but he didn't. He bought it way back when for only $1,800 - fully decked out.

Only valid criticism I've read about both 725 & 101 is that they are both too light for Tgrt work. 101 has kinetic trigger, 725 mechanical. Browning & Winchester sister companies and it's the same steel in both models. Both are backbored but the Browning has a lengthened forcing cone while the 101 just has a 5 degree slope. The 101 has Truglo replacable sighting system - hope that isn't the same BS failed one they used to put on Baretta's. Those pipes broke, small rubber doughnut hold pip in place n easy to lose; the system is broke w/o it. Must buy new one.

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unfortunatley all o&u's are light. only heavy one i know of is a k80, a savage 333 or a ljutic.
or a 3200, its nice. i shoot tons of those. i'll bring my 3200 4bbl set for you. click in the 20ga bbls for ya. i shoot a 14 7/8 lop over a kickeez on that one. you wont feel a thing. got any 28ga shells? shoot some 28's in it too. i dont mind.
friend handed me his cynergy years back and i went 25 straight with it. he dropped is jaw. personally i thought it kicked...but i never told him.
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unfortunatley all o&u's are light. only heavy one i know of is a k80, a savage 333 or a ljutic.
or a 3200, its nice. i shoot tons of those. i'll bring my 3200 4bbl set for you. click in the 20ga bbls for ya. i shoot a 14 7/8 lop over a kickeez on that one. you wont feel a thing. got any 28ga shells? shoot some 28's in it too. i dont mind.
friend handed me his cynergy years back and i went 25 straight with it. he dropped is jaw. personally i thought it kicked...but i never told him.
Thankfully, he had light reloads for me to shoot. Personally, I would have put the best recoil pad made on it but he had the original hard rubber one. I did shoot one box of 11/8 oz factory loads in it. Yep, she kicks but it was not Pump bad. This was a Sporting Clays model - ported etc.

The Browning Citori XS - is approx 8.5 lbs and w this weight, it helps tame recoil right out of the box. The cynergy seemed to "fit me" better and I suspect it has a lower drop at comb than a std Citori. Lock up seemed to be stronger as well.

Both the 725 & 101 w 30" barrels is 1/2lb under 8 lbs. My 391 paralel tgt w soft comb is heavy as well. (Might be closer to 9 lbs) Used to have a couple oz in mag tube and a long metal tube that attached - made it look like an O/U.
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When I shot in the sumner league (the fun league) the Big Dogs used 12 ga O/U w tube sets. (Most of them shot 20 ga or 28 ga)

I do not shoot in the Winter league (serious league) but when I visit the field I noticed the same guys are now shooting 12 ga and are adding weight to the barrels & stocks of their guns. No doubt, a 12 ga does recoil more than 20 ga. Draw your own conclusions.

Are birds harder to break in the winter or do people care more about their averages ?

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you want to shoot my 3200?
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Just found this. Pretty good price. 2" shorter barrels but multiple chokes.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-Field-Over-Under-Shotgun/1318818.uts
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