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 11-07-2008, 08:41 PM | #1 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |  Saiga shotguns
Anyone have a Saiga 12 or Saiga 20?
How is it at cycling and feeding? Is it very reliable or does it jam up a lot? Would you buy it again?
Do you have any 10 round mags or drums for it? How well do they function? | 
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| 11-07-2008, 09:46 PM | #2 | Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas, by God!! Posts: 5,526 |
Saiga 12 cycles fast. Up to AK reliability standards. The only way I have found to jam it up is to slip a 16 ga round into the mag. FT Fire. FT extract. Immediate action drill caused next round (12 ga) to force 16 ga shell into barrel and lock everything up. Dowel got it out. Major league squib rod. | |
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| 11-07-2008, 10:24 PM | #3 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
Why do you have 16 ga rounds anywhere near 12 ga?
You like it though? | |
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| 11-07-2008, 10:36 PM | #4 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
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| 11-08-2008, 12:39 AM | #6 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
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Originally Posted by notdku
How much do they run?
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About $500. The 10 round mags go for about $40 and the 20 round drums about $250 or $300. | |
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| 11-08-2008, 01:53 AM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
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Originally Posted by robocop10mm
Saiga 12 cycles fast. Up to AK reliability standards. The only way I have found to jam it up is to slip a 16 ga round into the mag. FT Fire. FT extract. Immediate action drill caused next round (12 ga) to force 16 ga shell into barrel and lock everything up. Dowel got it out. Major league squib rod.
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Is yours an Izmash or RAA Saiga? | |
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| 11-12-2008, 07:36 PM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas, by God!! Posts: 5,526 |
Izmash. That is a 14" bbl w/4" breaching device welded on. As you can see from the pic, there are 2 in the air and the breech is locked for the third shot.
You can find the 10 rounders for less (at least you could before the election). I paid about $20 for my 10 rounders.
For a standard Saiga expect to pay abt $500. More for one that has been converted with the trigger group forward. | |
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| 11-12-2008, 07:40 PM | #9 | Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas, by God!! Posts: 5,526 |
Oh, and how did a 16 ga round get mixed in? I have no clue. I don't even own a 16 ga. I remember a time when all shotgun ammo was color coded. Red for 12 ga, Purple for 16 ga and yellow for 20 ga. 410 was hard to mix up.
Now there are red 16 ga rounds that can easily be confused with 12 ga. Especially as my arms seem to be getting shorter in my old age and focusing on headstamps is difficult w/o reading glasses. | |
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| 11-12-2008, 08:25 PM | #10 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
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Originally Posted by robocop10mm
Izmash. That is a 14" bbl w/4" breaching device welded on. As you can see from the pic, there are 2 in the air and the breech is locked for the third shot.
You can find the 10 rounders for less (at least you could before the election). I paid about $20 for my 10 rounders.
For a standard Saiga expect to pay abt $500. More for one that has been converted with the trigger group forward.
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I've read that the RAAs are less reliable than the Izmash originals. Do you have any problems with the bolt closing over and your 10 round mags? Have your used you breaching device, if so , how much scatter did you get from it? | |
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