Hey 500Mag guy: If you want a Saiga 12, better get one now. I noticed several posts stated they were available at any gun shop, well, not that I could find. I hunted for several weeks, many websites and gunshops both online and by Google then telephone. I finally found one at K-Var in Las Vegas. Evidently the government gungrabbers are deciding right now, whether or not any more Saiga 12's can be imported, the decision, according to Russian-American Armory, the importers, will be made May 1. If you are interested, Google Saiga 12 and follow up on the sites listed. The most informative site is Saiga-12.com. I noticed yesterday, several sites have a few for sale. The best price I found for a new Saiga 12 in the factory box was $587. plus shipping etc. I'm in the process of arranging to have some modifications done to mine. There is no limit to what you can do to enhance this gun. Check out U-Tube, there is a load of videos showing how these guns can be customized and how dependable and effective they are. Good luck.