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CodyWalkerJr 02-23-2009 10:11 PM

sabot slugs and rifled slugs question
 
i have a winchester 1300 rifled deer slug shotgun..im curious to know about what kind of slugs to shoot in it .what about buck shot and bird shot?.ive gotten different answers from different people and i think a lot of people are confused because i have a rifled barrel...

now my questions, are sabots designed for smooth barrels? or rifled slugs
will sabots damage a rifled barrel?? will rifled slugs damage a rifled barrel or just affect accuracy

robocop10mm 02-24-2009 12:22 AM

Sabot slugs are specifically for rifled barrels. You CAN shoot other stuff through it but why? I do not believe you will damage the barrel by shooting buck shot, bird shot or Foster (rifled) slugs. The primary problem will be excessive fouling in a rifled barrel.

CodyWalkerJr 02-24-2009 12:43 AM

thanks robocop. ..i did not know until recently that rifled slugs were not for rifled barrels . i thought that slugs were only for rifled barrels hence the rifling .i hope i havent damaged anything

dragunovsks 02-24-2009 01:32 AM

I agree with Robo about the shooting slugs. I have a NEF Pardner Tracker II single shot with a rifled barrel. I shoot Remington Coppersolids and Hornady SST which are both sabot slugs. For my NEF pump I use regular cheap slugs because it has a smooth bore.

I however have been taught my whole life that you should never shoot any kind of shot through a rifled barrel. Why? The shot bounces down the barrel and especially in the case of steel shot can damage the rifling. You probably won't damage the rifling with lead shot but I still won't do it. Why chance it. I would rather buy another barrel or in my case another gun than to fire whatever through my gun and end up with a gun that won't hit the broadside of a barn from 10 paces. I bought the NEF pump so I wouldn't have to worry about it with the rifled shotgun. Also, a rifled barrel has little or no choke so you won't be able to get a decent pattern anyway. This is of course my own two cents and you can take it for what it's worth.

robocop10mm 02-24-2009 12:54 PM

I have never tried it, but I have heard the spin imparted by the rifling is very detrimental to nice patterns of bird shot.

phrn 02-26-2009 12:43 AM

try 'em all look at all the fun you can have!!!!!

c3shooter 02-26-2009 01:50 AM

In general- the projectile should be opposite of the barrel. If barrel is rifled, slug should not be. Sabots for rifled, not smoothbore. Rifled slugs for smoothbores. A rifled barrel has a tendency to impart spin to the shotcup, which will give you a doughnut pattern with shot.

jdesplin 08-04-2009 03:02 PM

All are correct on not shooting any other shot besides a sabot slug through your fully rifled barrel. It WILL damage the barrel.

On on another note. I also have a Winchester model 1300 with a rifled barrel. I slug hunt whitetails in IL. I recomend that you try Remington Accutip sabot slugs. I have had good luck all the way out to 150 yrds. Though I would post this even though it is a little late.

kd5exp 02-12-2013 12:07 AM

I have a Mossberg Mavrick 88 with a smoothbore and I have a rifled barrel also. I have both molds, lee 1 oz key and 525 gr sabot. They both shot good out of both barrels. The rifled barrel has a much better grouping at longer distance. I was not getting god grouping for a long time till I read a post on another forum about the hulls. It said new or one time fired hulls only. I also mica my wads and this makes a big difference. On the Lee slugs I put 1/8 16 ga cards(2 of them) under the slug to bring the slug out to open the crimp instead of the wad. WAA12 wads and 21 gr of 700X is a mild load and works great for me in my gun. I can shoot a clover leaf with the rifle barrel and about 3 1/2 inch with the smooth bore at 50 yards with iron sights. Fix en to put me a red dot on it and try that.

John_Deer 02-12-2013 02:27 AM

I shoot just plain old Winchester Super X slugs with my rifled barrel. They do not have the range of a sabot but they will hit a 2" target almost every time at 75 yards. I have no issues with lead fouling in the number of shots I am going to take in a given session. 300 gr sabots have at least a 150 yard effective range. The federal fusion sabots are not bad either. I don't know about the Fusions extended range, at 75 yards they are dead on.


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