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Old 03-15-2014, 03:36 PM   #21
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I have shot plenty of birds that were flying towards me. I have never had enough blood splatter on me to need a windshield (red dot) on my shotgun.
Me neither, but I am here to tell you an optical sight like a SpeedBead does work. I got one just because I like to fool around with stuff, and I had a Weaver Qwik Point years ago that worked great, when it worked. SpeedBead solves all the problems the Weaver had. And don't give me that line about looking at the target, because with an optical sight you do look at the target.
I keep it real simple. My hunting shotguns do double duty for home defense. Don't own a barrel shorter than 25", and that's on my 28 gauge 1100.
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I think at this point the 870 vs 500 debate is pretty much the same as a ford vs chevy debate. Both are pretty good quality shotguns or cars, both make the occasional lemon. I have had great service from 870s and Fords, your experience may be different on both shotguns and cars. We can still have fun debating and arguing the point though.

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Is there anything about shotguns in the $1500 - $2500 price range that make them that much better than the Rem or Moss for home defense purposes?

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Is there anything about shotguns in the $1500 - $2500 price range that make them that much better than the Rem or Moss for home defense purposes?
No, there isn't anything that makes a work of art better for home defense.
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There are over 10 of these on the forums, check into those first. Both guns are outstanding and will suite your needs.

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Is there anything about shotguns in the $1500 - $2500 price range that make them that much better than the Rem or Moss for home defense purposes?
For HD, no. For reliability, dependability, durability, quality, resale value, appearance, pride of ownership, yes. In those areas, and others, you get what you pay for.
For HD, hard to go wrong with an 870 or Moss.
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I think at this point the 870 vs 500 debate is pretty much the same as a ford vs chevy debate. Both are pretty good quality shotguns or cars, both make the occasional lemon. I have had great service from 870s and Fords, your experience may be different on both shotguns and cars. We can still have fun debating and arguing the point though.
I have to side with F4U on this. i have owned Fords and Chevys, 500s and 870s, and all of them have done what I have asked of them. The current choices for me are a 1992 F-150 (300 I6\5 speed) and an 870 Express Magnum 12 ga. Here's why:

I owned a Maverick model 88 for close to 20 years before passing it on to it's current owner, who needed a cheap reliable shotgun for his son to hunt with him. In 2011, I gave him mine so he could pass the tradition on to his son, and I see no reason it will not serve him well for the next 20 years.

this left me with my current pump gun, a 2002 remington 870 Express Magnum, which I picked up in 2006. the reason I bought it was that upon losing the sight in my right eye, i had to switch to L\H shooting. i stand 5'7 inches, and I have small hands. I found the trigger to be too far forward to be comfortable for me while shooting L\H with the Maverick, and a friend of mine let me try out his 870 which fit perfectly. A week later I picked up a trade in at my LGS, and started running slugs through it. I found the added bonus of it not kicking like a mule on crack during the sight in with the slugs, and it became my new deer gun. The 870 is just a better fit for me.

I still have a model 500 in the safe (my wife's) and several other Mossberg shotguns (mostly bolt guns, but there is a model 200k and a 200 d in there as well). I do not bash them, or those who chose them over the 870. Over 10,000,000 of each made, and 90% of them are still going strong is the best endorsement for either model. As i say when others ask which is better, meet me at the range, and bring some ammo. I'll bring both, and a few of my other shotguns, so you can figure that out for yourself.

As to the elevator on the 870, I have only found it to be an issue while trying to unload the shotgun from it's underside. I still don't feel comfortable with having to cycle the action to unload it, but that's just me. Aside from that, I usually forget that it's even there.
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owning one and shooting them until they seize up is a different thing.
ive never seized up an 870.

500? yep.

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A $300 Remington shotgun shoots em good. A $2500 Remington shoots em purty.

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