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PeteZaHut 04-17-2011 07:31 PM

Pump vs. Semi-auto
 
Are there any advantages to a pump over semi-auto? Obviously, semi-autos can fire quicker. I have also heard they have less recoil because they put some energy into chambering the next round. And let's exclude the "pump-action sound can scare away home invaders" argument.

c3shooter 04-17-2011 07:41 PM

Well, if you are in PA, you cannot use a semi for hunting. Pump, bolt, lever, yes. Auto, no. A practiced shooter with a pump can be DAMNED fast, but I must admit, I have RARELY missed a bird clean on the first shot, and got it on the second- but have picked off a few doubles.

wmille01 04-17-2011 08:49 PM

cheaper, less parts, it helps me keep count of shots, I somtimes get too trigger happy with semi auto only to be dissapointed from the epic click of an empty gun.

skullcrusher 04-17-2011 09:08 PM

Pumps will work everytime given they are properly taken care of and lubed. In colder temps, the semis can fail where the pumps will not. If waterfowl hunting in sub-freezing temps, the semis can fail. A pump will only fire one when one is chambered through the pump action. Semis can and have been known to fire more than one with one pull of the trigger. Not a common occurance by any means, but I have never heard of a pump going off more than once per pull of the trigger.

oli700 04-17-2011 09:13 PM

For me its easyer to transition to a slug with a pump

skullcrusher 04-17-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli700 (Post 488572)
For me its easyer to transition to a slug with a pump

And another excellent + for the pump. :)

No matter what the OP decides, practice, practice, practice.

Learn it, love it, live it. :D

fireguy 04-18-2011 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skullcrusher (Post 488568)
Pumps will work everytime given they are properly taken care of and lubed. In colder temps, the semis can fail where the pumps will not. If waterfowl hunting in sub-freezing temps, the semis can fail. A pump will only fire one when one is chambered through the pump action. Semis can and have been known to fire more than one with one pull of the trigger. Not a common occurance by any means, but I have never heard of a pump going off more than once per pull of the trigger.

Winchester Model 12 and the 97, will shoot with the trigger depressed and held everytime the gun is racked and closed.

skullcrusher 04-18-2011 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireguy (Post 488882)
Winchester Model 12 and the 97, will shoot with the trigger depressed and held everytime the gun is racked and closed.

Interesting. Still, I'm confident you know what I meant. So one pull of the trigger in a pump that cycles as fast as the operator vs. the same in an auto loader?

You know where I can get a Win Mod 12 or 97 for a good price? :D

Btw, *thumbs up*

Virginian 04-18-2011 07:46 AM

I do not feel there are any advantages to a good pump over a good semi. If you start talking cheap, the pump wins because human muscle can overcome manufacturing flaws.
The cold weather argument hold no water if the shooter knows what they are doing. Modern synthetic lubricants do not jell in cold temps.
I shoot both, depending on my mood. Go with whichever you prefer and you can be happy.

JonM 04-18-2011 01:46 PM

semi auto shotguns can be tempermental in switching weight of the shell this is mainly in gas operated models. can be a pita.

my personal preference is double barrel or pump. i just dont like the aggrevation factor of semi auto shotguns. mainly cuz im not really a fan of shotguns in general. so not a lot of effort is put into the intricacies. i just want it to work the few times a year i bring one out of the gun safe.


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