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old fart 05-18-2012 01:27 AM

problem or not?
 
i have a pardner pump, it has been flawless thru several hundred rounds. i was cleaning it today and afterward was loading my buckshot in it, my wife had fell asleep on the couch so as not to wake her up i carefully pressed the release brought the slide back and eased the slide forward slowly. then as the buckshot started to enter the chamber the slide stuck slightly, i tried to ease it forward but no i then pushed the slide up with normal force and it loaded just fine. i then unloaded it and reloaded using a normal motion, no problem at all loaded smoothly. should the gun be able to load slow and easy?, i guess i'm asking do i have a problem or not? thanks

tCan 05-18-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by old fart (Post 805807)
i have a pardner pump, it has been flawless thru several hundred rounds. i was cleaning it today and afterward was loading my buckshot in it, my wife had fell asleep on the couch so as not to wake her up i carefully pressed the release brought the slide back and eased the slide forward slowly. then as the buckshot started to enter the chamber the slide stuck slightly, i tried to ease it forward but no i then pushed the slide up with normal force and it loaded just fine. i then unloaded it and reloaded using a normal motion, no problem at all loaded smoothly. should the gun be able to load slow and easy?, i guess i'm asking do i have a problem or not? thanks

My 870 does the same thing if the shell is too far rearward on the elevator. It becomes more difficult to drive the slide forward. You wouldn't notice it if you were pumping with a normal force, but if you actuate the slide slowly as you described it will be come noticeable. I think whats happening is that youre dragging the hull which is a rubbery plastic across a metal surface. Naturally it would stick slightly. Once it begins to enter the chamber, the contact with the elevator is lessened and eventually removed which is why you dont get that resistance when the shell is sitting more forward. Just my theory though.

303tom 05-18-2012 04:26 AM

Not a problem....................

Axxe55 05-18-2012 04:56 AM

possibly because you tried to ease it gently. most pumps like to be racked with some gusto. i have only experianced a problem or seen it with my wife when trying to gently load a shell. i had to get her to use some authority with the pump. now she has no problem with it. i am not sure this is your problem, but just an idea to consider.

Virginian 05-18-2012 11:06 AM

If you turn it sideways to watch it doesn't help either. If an intruder falls asleep on your couch, and rather than petrifying him by racking the pump loudly you decide you want to blast him awake, I can see where it might get dicey.

Jstrong 05-18-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Virginian
If you turn it sideways to watch it doesn't help either. If an intruder falls asleep on your couch, and rather than petrifying him by racking the pump loudly you decide you want to blast him awake, I can see where it might get dicey.

Not sure if you were serious but I don't think a dead intruder would look good on your part if he was still laying on the couch like he was snoozing ,probably the better idea would be to tickle his nose with the muzzle after calling the authorities and laugh when he fills his underwear to the brim when he wakes up

---Shoot To Thrill---

HockaLouis 05-18-2012 11:41 AM

Not a problem in particular. Mechanical actions offer resistance. 870's are bad enough. Chinese ones have to be worse. The instructions probably say to work the action smartly. With a different gun and when broken in maybe it'd be smoother...

donthav1 05-20-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by axxe55 (Post 806339)
possibly because you tried to ease it gently. most pumps like to be racked with some gusto. i have only experianced a problem or seen it with my wife when trying to gently load a shell. i had to get her to use some authority with the pump. now she has no problem with it. i am not sure this is your problem, but just an idea to consider.

i've got an old JC Higgins pump that is the same way.

whenever my girlfriend shoots my semi-auto pistols, she always tries to gently rack the slide & ease it forward to make sure a shell loads. this always results in either the gun not going into battery or the round popping out of the mag & stove piping. i gotta keep telling her to do it with some authority, that's the way the guns were designed

Gonzilla 05-22-2012 06:12 PM

I had this issue w Mossberg but it only had one charge bar. I have not had the problem w my 870 but it is relatively new and it has two charge bars.

W/O two charge bars the action can bind a wee bit. Historically, under duress, short shucking can be a problem. If anyone knows a cure, now would be a good time to let the genie out of the bottle.

HockaLouis 05-23-2012 12:44 AM

I think I know one -- check your owners' manual on that Mossberg for the actual name and part number to replace.


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