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yeah my mate's dad has the FN Police semi, it really does good, though I know in NZ they cost a pretty penny.
That being said I prefer to get my gun stuff from USA anyway

Thanks for all the feedback, now I can head into the local to try some on.
The main/only thing that is especially appealing about the Saiga12 is the box magazine feed, instead of single feeding.

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yeah my franchi al48 is an A5 pattern, but it just won't cycle anything less than a 36 gram load, which is generally fine,
but when it fails to cycle you can't just rack the handle to put another in, you actually have to hand load a shell into the chamber and whack the bolt release. Makes a nice single barrel shotgun when it decides to be, ergo not semi awesome.

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as for what we use it for, largescale rabbit elimination.
Imagine one target running out, you shoot, hit, then 4 more run out thanks to the report of that. boom boom boom, run run, etc.
then you take one step forward and it happens all over again, hence why a box mag would be good for instant refill.
So having quick followup shots is great, our 870s are amazing and we can work them fast enough to be good, but having a quality semi that famously REDUCES the recoil flip as opposed to AUGMENTING it and can stay on target for quick successive shots, that would be the pants.
I'm going to go co-own on it with my rabbiting partner, so if I sell my franchi for about NZ$400 (US$320) plus that again in cash, plus the same again from the other party, all in all about US$1200 seems like a reasonable range.

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in regards to the Red Jacket thing,
my feelings are summarised by this revelation during one of the first episodes I saw.

Gun Boss Man "We are making a quad Mg42!"
Gun making man "YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A GUN THAT SHOT AT MY GRANDAD!?"
Good one dude, I'm not an American but I'm pretty sure those AKs you are constantly building should ring some patriotic alarm bells in regards to notoriety.

It's a shame that a show set in a gun shop can induce such a degree of cringe and pathos, you almost feel guilty
for trying to watch.
Thanks Discovery, with your physically impossible yet suspiciously unaddressed episode format

There's another one too that started recently called (I think) American Guns. Better? Worse? Tactical nuclear strike?

[spack762]

As far as smi-auto shotguns go, anyone hear/use a MKA-1919? Good, bad, junk??

[Cracker7]

So what you guys are saying is that Russian AKs are cheap garbage? Saigas included? I better go back and review my history and see which weapon system is number 1. Maybe not the most accurate rifle, but come on people. Lol

[Mosin]

Yup, garbage. LOL.

[racer_x]

Ya makes a guy wonder about his a-500 gold trigger lol

[tonydewar]

getting a little away from the op. imho rem1100 or beretta 390/391

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that saiga is just lush I'm an AFG man myself too.