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Old 07-18-2010, 11:46 PM   #1
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I'm new to this site and I hope these aren't considered "dumb" questions. Here goes........I have a "97 Trench gun serial #680xxx. The gun does NOT have a visable flaming bomb stamp on the receiver. It does have a US on the receiver. It also has USMC stamping next to the serial number (along with an "E"). There is also a EGA stamp on the buttstock. My question to all of you experts is: Did all '97's have the flaming bomb stamp? (thought I read somewhere not all did ?????) If so, what in the heck do I have?

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Old 07-19-2010, 02:55 AM   #2
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All should have the flaming bomb (symbol for ordnance) and the US stamping- but crap happens, ya know? Link for serial number range- check your against the list.Model 1897 Serial Numbers and Date produced

Note of caution- if you already know this, please pardon the lecture- 97s DO NOT HAVE A TRIGGER DISCONNECTOR. If you fire it, and while still holding the trigger down, you pump the action- IT WILL FIRE AGAIN. (Which will get you talked about by people nearby)

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Im surprised C3 didnt say anything. Please stop by the introductions and tell us a bit about yourself. Thanks.

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Excuse me- Where ARE my manners? Welcome to the forum- bunch of really nice folks, 2 weirdos, and 3 grumpy old farts. Please do stop over by intros, and say howdy to the nice folks. Traveling right now, but will dig thru some of my refrences when I get home again.

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Thanks for the welcome. Thought I would include some photos.

the second picture shows a slight US on the receiver.

The gun at some point was parkerized as well....


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I believe that the stamped letters U.S.M.C. are not a factory stamp, due to the spacing is wrong and the drop "C". Was probably done after it left the factory by a previous owner at some time. Also the model depicts "1897" not M97 which was the military model. I could be wrong, hope that I am. You need someone to look at it that is very familiar with vintage Winchester firearms.

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That is some great info (didn't know about the 1897-M97). Kind of strange that someone would have gone to great lengths to piece this gun together. Well, let me backtrack (I know folks deceive and fake almost anything to make a buck), I bought the shotgun from a dealer for about $350. So its not like they were trying to pull the wool over my eyes. I agree with the imperfect USMC stamping. Also what would the number "27" indicate? There's one more picture that I would like everyone to see. Not that it means anything, I thought it looked pretty neat. (on the buttstock).

Again I appreciate any information all of you have and will be giving.



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That is some great info (didn't know about the 1897-M97). Kind of strange that someone would have gone to great lengths to piece this gun together. Well, let me backtrack (I know folks deceive and fake almost anything to make a buck), I bought the shotgun from a dealer for about $350. So its not like they were trying to pull the wool over my eyes. I agree with the imperfect USMC stamping. Also what would the number "27" indicate? There's one more picture that I would like everyone to see. Not that it means anything, I thought it looked pretty neat. (on the buttstock).

Again I appreciate any information all of you have and will be giving.
I am no expert, but that appears to be the USMC Seal on the buttstock.
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I am no expert, but that appears to be the USMC Seal on the buttstock.
Yes it's the Marine EGA (as mentioned in my first post.) Thanks
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fstop61,

Yes neat indeed-
I'm only speculating, the U.S. Marines insignia is homemade since it's only an outline. There's no detail in the artwork. Does it look to be done by a Wood Burner Iron? I ask because dads bought these wood burner kits for their sons in the fifties, sixties, etc., I had a couple when I was a kid.

I'm sure the "E" stands for what gauge the gun is chambered in.
It's a 12 gauge...right?
The "27" could be the number count off the production line, 27th made of that particular year/run. How long is the barrel?

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