Originally Posted by juststartin5272
If you don't feel safe with buckshot or slugs in your shotgun you need something different for hone defense. If you are worried about shots passing through walls you need to use a high velocity round as they will stop in walls much quicker than most anything else
With all due respect, its not about feeling safe with buckshot or slugs, its about whats most practical to safeguard innocent bystanders as much as possible. In the case of home defense, those innocent bystanders could well be your wife, children, guests or other family members. An intruder could well be in a location in your home that when shot at a missed slug or 00 buckshot that missed could penetrate that childs bedroom wall with disatrous results.
The same holds true in an apartment scenerio.
What are you going to do, ask the perp to move to a different location so you can safely shoot him?
While there are scenerios where a slug or buck can safely be used its certainly not in the confines of ones own home.
As for the high velocity round stopping in walls comment, THAT sounds like it comes from joe average homeowner who bought a gun for protection and had absolutely no knowledge of ballistics past what the guy at the big box store told him would make the best home defense ammo.
While velocity can sometimes be a factor, its more about projectile construction. particularly bullets designed for low penetration vs a solid point that gives deep penetration with expansion, or a solid point, such as an fmj that provides no penetration at all. Those bullets will easily go through two pieces of sheetrock and in many cases penetrate an innocent bystander as well.
Only such bullets as the glaser safty slug for example minimize the danger of overpenetration in residential structures.
For example years ago while still in law enforcement, my dept. did some ammo penetration tests on varous test materials, car fenders, windshields, home windows, simulated sheet rock walls, solid and hollow core doors, not only to determine the effectiveness of duty ammo we carried but how over effective it could be in a shoot/miss scenerio. While i could post pages of data regarding caliber, bullet style/velocities, penetration results of the various test media, to show my point, one test that was extremely surprising was with a .22 air rifle and a lead projectile weight of something like 15 grains at approximately 900 fps, fully penetrated a simulated sheet rock wall, that is 2 pieces of 1/2 inch sheet rock seperated by a standard 2 x 4. It did NOT however pass through a 3rd piece of sheetrock 6 inches behind the target "wall". but did penetrate far enough, had that been a human body it would have caused injury.
Conversly a .357 158 grain jacketed solid point at a nominal 1100 fps, passed through all 3 pieces of sheetrock into the safety berm behind the targets from a distance of about 30 feet, what we considered to be a maximum in the home shooting distance.
Thus my assessment stands, as stated, inside the home i'll stick with birdshot.