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Old 05-19-2014, 10:21 PM   #11
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I have over 100 rounds through it. Not one hit my wrist. I'm saying its a training issue if anyone is getting wrist impact from ejected shells. Not a single malfunction so far. On close inspection of the action, I can see that if the slide is not stroked with authority, there could be a problem. The last 1/4" of slide travel is nessesary for full function. A front vertical Magpul grip seems to make it easier to get a full stroke on the slide. Like I said. Not a single issue. It has now taken the home defend role for me. Even my wife has had no issues as I gave her a quick 5 min orientation to the function requirements before her first shoot.

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Both the KSG and the UTS 15 caught my interest but I have yet to see either in person. What didn't you like about the UTS 15? Just curious.

I like the KSG better for a couple of reasons. It's physically smaller and shorter. It's also much easier to top up the mags on the fly (much like a conventional pump) as compared to the unusual method of loading the UTS and I just liked the looks of the KSG better. Totally personal preference. Both are pretty cool rides.
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Um yes can we have a picture of your wrist. First 10 ejections completely broke the skin on Mac's wrist. He gave it a bad review. Now the UTS 15 is a terrible gun (I have done my research and have personal experience with it). Mixed reviews with the KSG, but I am going to hold off until they fix all the flaws. Bud all I can say is if you are using that firearm for defense, you better run damn plenty of rounds through there, as with any SD firearm, to see if it's 100% functioning.

It's a gun that needs to be run correctly with just a bit of training. I don't think mine is any better than the ones others have tested. Just need to be aware of how it functions. Full strokes all the way back will produce flawless function. Point the elbow of the trigger hand out a bit and don't tuck it in and you will see that the shells will not hit your wrist.
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As someone pointed out, if you buy one and are not comfortable or able to run it properly then I also would caution against using it as primary defense. But once mastered, you too will be hooked on it.

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Looks cool, also looks too heavy. Saw vids of both Guns. I think I'll stick with a semi-auto, and wait for a drum to come out on the mag fed. Ones...held the KSG at SHOT, was more interested in hounding them for a a Sub-2000 and a PMR-30..


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The gun itself is not heavy compared to your typical 12ga. What gets heavy is all that ammo.

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Both the KSG and the UTS 15 caught my interest but I have yet to see either in person. What didn't you like about the UTS 15? Just curious.
The UTS 15 shouldn't even be called a gun... It is a piece of plastic rubbish, and the 1% of metal that's in the gun is cheap steel and rusts. The dual magazine tubes have a 1/4" gap, allowing drit and moisture to get in there. Not to mention that FPSRUSSIA (just using him as an example that's not the only youtuber that has had problems [nutnfancy]) went through three of them within one hour. The UTS 15 is garbage.
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It's a gun that needs to be run correctly with just a bit of training. I don't think mine is any better than the ones others have tested. Just need to be aware of how it functions. Full strokes all the way back will produce flawless function. Point the elbow of the trigger hand out a bit and don't tuck it in and you will see that the shells will not hit your wrist.
What kind of ammo are you running through them? The federal stuff that has barely and brass or something like Remington that has a long jacket of brass near the back of the shell. I think this is one of the most common issues with ANY shotgun action is the fact that shells like federal don't give the gun enough slip to properly handle the shell.
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A variety of shells. All worked well. I'm sure I will find something it doesn't like as well t some point.
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