Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com

Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com (http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/)
-   General Shotgun Discussion (http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f26/)
-   -   Kel-Tec KSG (http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f26/kel-tec-ksg-45165/)

AZ1980 07-14-2011 05:45 AM

Kel-Tec KSG
 
I didn't see this topic yet so i hope it is not a repost. Does anyone know when this comes out? It is a 12 guage, 15 round capacity shotgun in bullpup design. The duel 7 shot magazines seems impressive. Just up my alley, because i was looking into getting a new shotty soon. If anyone does get the chance to fire this puppy(bullpuppy, haha) feel free to give your $0.02

deathkricket 07-14-2011 12:54 PM

Comes out around the end of this year last time i looked and is around $700

AZ1980 07-14-2011 03:32 PM

it seems like there are quite a few pre-orders for this so it might be beyond that.

Dzscubie 07-14-2011 06:27 PM

I read about this and had the opportunity to inspect and hold on at the Shot Show in January. Overall impression is itís a gimmick. It is an impressive piece of machinery but not user friendly and from a Law Enforcement point of view a good idea that will fail.

Now, let me explain myself on this. The KSG is small but uncomfortable to me to use in a shoulder firing position seems to blocky to me. Additionally, you cannot quickly reload the two magazine tubes as they are imbedded deeply in the stock and it is very awkward to push the rounds up with two fingers as the loading tube is about 2Ē up in the stock and if you have big fingers itís even worse. Also the safety is backassward from all cross bolt safeties on the Remington or Mossberg. If you are a right hand shooter you push the safety with your trigger finger (like a 870 or Maverick) and your putting the safety ON not OFF. For a LEO who has used the 870 for years, in a high threat situation, this will get you killed as muscle memory is to push the safety off right to left. Also with dummy rounds you can cycle the pump faster than it can follow and you can jam up the action.

This is my impression and my opinion only. Kel-tec are good weapons and this was a great idea that I think fell a little short of expectations.

Scubie

Tsolo 07-16-2011 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzscubie (Post 541159)
I read about this and had the opportunity to inspect and hold on at the Shot Show in January. Overall impression is itís a gimmick. It is an impressive piece of machinery but not user friendly and from a Law Enforcement point of view a good idea that will fail.

Now, let me explain myself on this. The KSG is small but uncomfortable to me to use in a shoulder firing position seems to blocky to me. Additionally, you cannot quickly reload the two magazine tubes as they are imbedded deeply in the stock and it is very awkward to push the rounds up with two fingers as the loading tube is about 2Ē up in the stock and if you have big fingers itís even worse. Also the safety is backassward from all cross bolt safeties on the Remington or Mossberg. If you are a right hand shooter you push the safety with your trigger finger (like a 870 or Maverick) and your putting the safety ON not OFF. For a LEO who has used the 870 for years, in a high threat situation, this will get you killed as muscle memory is to push the safety off right to left. Also with dummy rounds you can cycle the pump faster than it can follow and you can jam up the action.

This is my impression and my opinion only. Kel-tec are good weapons and this was a great idea that I think fell a little short of expectations.

Scubie

I am looking forward to this gun coming out. It looks so cool, and I like the design. Then again, I've never held one like you, and I'm sorry to read about the negative features you mentioned. I look forward to handling one and gaining my own impression. And I hope the big hype of these doesn't jack the price up over a grand.

JonM 07-16-2011 01:53 AM

the safety being backwards is pretty damn stupid. another bad issue just from reading the specs is manual switching from mag to mag. if it was an automatic switch over it might be worthy as a behind the seat truck gun.

feed issues with the pump is a huge nogo.

Dzscubie 07-16-2011 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonM (Post 542432)
the safety being backwards is pretty damn stupid. another bad issue just from reading the specs is manual switching from mag to mag. if it was an automatic switch over it might be worthy as a behind the seat truck gun.

feed issues with the pump is a huge nogo.



Jon,

The manual switch is actually not to difficult to use, it could be tweeked a little and made a bit longer and maybe a paddle on the end, but overall fairly easy to switch from mag to mag. I liked the manual switch myself as I was envisioning loading one mag with breecher rounds and then less lethal and the other mag with double 00 and slugs.

The safety just left me shaking my head. The Kel-Tec rep did not seem to concerned when I brought up the safety issue but maybe it was just all the people, noise and such.

Scubie

onfloat 07-16-2011 02:35 AM

I was less impressed once I saw the Nutnfancy video.

deathkricket 07-16-2011 08:32 PM

I will wait till they start flooding into gun shops and i can pick one up for $300 or so, i am a cheap guy to begin with so i cant see myself paying $700 or $800 for a half plastic shotgun.


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:07 AM.

Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.