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Old 12-13-2013, 10:02 AM   #1
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Default Identifying a Shotgun: Nothing is easy

So as part of my studies I have been evaluating some friends shotguns. First one I get is an inoperative Daffini Libero Armi (circa 1956 had to get date from proof house is Brescia Italy). That was a 2 month process, which I am still making, and trying to find parts for. (hopefully Beretta FS1 parts are similar) Now another friend showed me a picture of a shotgun supposedly used in Vietnam. The receiver looks like a Remington Model 11 except....its a pump action. I can't find something like this ANYWHERE?? Any ideas. Oh and here is a pic of the Daffini.[IMG]http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachment.php?



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Old 12-13-2013, 12:19 PM   #2
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The receiver looks like a Remington Model 11 except....its a pump action.
could be a Stevens 520


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@Hiwall: Bingo!!! Its a Wards Western Model 30. Made by Stevens. Is it possible this firearm was in Vietnam? This is the story behind it. It is also a 20 guage. Doesn't fire, trigger wont pull, slide works, my next assignment.

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Thats just neat man. Only shotguns I ever heard of being used in Vietnam was the Ithaca Pump. My dad told me stories about how some of the teams guys he was with cut them down and fashioned a duckbill to spread the shot horizontally.

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Kind of looks like a Investarm folding shotgun to me !...................

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I have 2 folders and I cant recall if this was one of them but I do know the ejector is broke to hell on one of them . I keep them around and loaded as they are good for the New York Reloads , shoot it and pick up another one .
Most are neat but not worth too much , right now anyway .
I have a 20ga that will take you about 30 min before you figure out how to break it open , the whole trigger guard slides back to open it .
Makes you wonder just where or how these odd ball small no name companies shot guns ended up in your hands . I am sure the stories are worth more than the guns .
Here is a thread I started about one about like yours .
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f26/ever-heard-one-48106/

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the did use stevens in vietnam also remigtons and winchesters too

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The US military in Vietnam did not use store brand guns, such as Westernfield, Revelation or J C Higgins, since they contracted directly with the manufacturers. No combat shotguns were used in Vietnam except 12 g.

In short, a Westernfield 20 g would not be a military firearm.

Arms of the US military were marked with the "burning bomb" symbol, known as the Ordnance insignia. Looks like this:

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Yeah but soldiers being soldiers improvised I've heard of all sorts of stuff that wasn't military issue being used mostly involving captured weapons so nothing would surprise me

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a 20 gauge would be a VERY unlikely military gun.



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