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Old 06-15-2014, 12:52 AM   #31
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I would think it depends on the size of the shot. You could try "spreader" rounds if they make them in 20Ga. Which I think they do,.......

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Old 06-15-2014, 04:06 AM   #32
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That would depend on the choke of the barrel, not the length.

Biggest bore possible.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:52 PM   #33
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The old standard was 1" per yard traveled, but that was without plastic wads, which hold the shot together much longer. Through a cylinder choke, even using a 'spreader' load, I doubt that you would get more than a 12" circle, if that.
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:45 PM   #34
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These sites will help your understanding of shotgun ballistics. Use the lead shot tables for your purposes.

The further away, the less energy for penetration and killing power.
The smaller pellet size the the faster energy is lost.
The smaller the shot size, the more pellets per ounce.
The further away the the pellets are further away from each other.
I think some of the posters delicately suggest a 20 gauge over a 410.
Here is some info from the Remington site.
410 3 inch 7 1/2 inch shot has 350 pellets per ounce and 11/16 ounce of shot= 238 pellets
20 gauge 2 3/4 inch 7/1/2 shot with 1 ounce 350 pellets
20 gauge 2 3/4 inch with 9 shot = 585 pellets.
In my opinion, you wold be better with a 20 gauge which will be more useful for you in the future.
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If you know someone in the community who reloads he may be able to load some light recoil rounds to get you started with small shot sixes.
Any how, that's my thoughts.
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For starlings and such I find that a half decent pellet rifle is more than adequate. $100 4.5mm (.177) beeman or Crossman at 1000fps, sight the scope for 25 or 50 yards and you're good to go.
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:13 AM   #36
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I love to shoot them on the wing with everything. My little single shot .410 is one my favorites but...a lot of birds means an auto or pump, perhaps.
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My 2 Cents

Swing by your local Wal-Mart pick up a Remington 20 Ga 870 Express for approx $300
Clean and Service it regularly and it will last 100 years
Like my 870 Wingmaster Mag. made in 1960 still works like a clock
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