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Old 08-13-2011, 03:33 PM   #11
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I used to work with a guy that was shot in the stomach with a single barrel 12 gauge loaded with #6 shot from across a small bedroom. He lost half his stomach and part of his intestines but he took the gun away from the guy that shot him and beat him to death with it before he called an ambulance.
Prolly would been a different ending if the now deceased fella, would have aimed just a little bit higher.
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On the show 1000 ways to die, a drunk guy was tired of his budding bumming his cigs, so he cut the top of a shell off and dumped the shot out, then pack it back with some cigs, shot them at his buddy and they penetrated his throat and face and it killed the guy, so yes they are lethal, and Im with the other guys if the rack of the slide aka "national get the f*ck out of my house" sound doesn't do it, then the first shot definitely will definitely get their attention, and it they have help with them they are all gonna say fu*ck this were outta here, and if not thats when there asses are getting the pdx1 out of the .45 LOL

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Cgersty you better be careful about what you believe is true on tv, im not saying that a shotgun shell rigged like that wouldnt kill somebody but im not 100% sure that everything on that tv show is true.

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I dont really believe it but they claim that it is real, this is one of those mythbuster things.

Man Shot Dead With Cigarette Butts - ABC News

I dont know about shotguns but this was a ciggarette butt fired from a rifle.

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The first round in my "alarm clock" Mossy is bird shot. It's maybe 20 feet to my bedroom door. I've shot a crapload of cheapo/bulk birdshot at a WIDE variety of targets for fun & mischief, and i feel pretty safe behind it. The rest of the mag tube is full of buck with the last one being a slug, in case of a harder target.

Of course, my open-when-home safe isn't 15 feet from my bed, so i have options if the shotty doesn't seem adequate (loaded SKS +4 mags, loaded XD45 + 6 mags, loaded CZ75b + 8 mags, loaded GP100 + 2 speedloaders, loaded CZ52 +2 mags (for blinding us all) etc.). I also have a small handgun lockbox that i may attach to the bottom of my bedside table to be able to access one pistol + a few mags on the downlow. Lest they feel slighted and sell me out, I also have two guard cats on hand for hissing and distraction.

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The first round in my "alarm clock" Mossy is bird shot. It's maybe 20 feet to my bedroom door. I've shot a crapload of cheapo/bulk birdshot at a WIDE variety of targets for fun & mischief, and i feel pretty safe behind it. The rest of the mag tube is full of buck with the last one being a slug, in case of a harder target.

Of course, my open-when-home safe isn't 15 feet from my bed, so i have options if the shotty doesn't seem adequate (loaded SKS +4 mags, loaded XD45 + 6 mags, loaded CZ75b + 8 mags, loaded GP100 + 2 speedloaders, loaded CZ52 +2 mags (for blinding us all) etc.). I also have a small handgun lockbox that i may attach to the bottom of my bedside table to be able to access one pistol + a few mags on the downlow. Lest they feel slighted and sell me out, I also have two guard cats on hand for hissing and distraction.
Damn Gello...when did you move to Mogadishu?
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Know a guy who lost his left eye at about 60 yards quail hunting with #8 shot. Was wearing prescription glasses instead of shooting glasses.

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Prolly would been a different ending if the now deceased fella, would have aimed just a little bit higher.
That's true but he didn't. Just sayin.
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I used to work with a guy that was shot in the stomach with a single barrel 12 gauge loaded with #6 shot from across a small bedroom. He lost half his stomach and part of his intestines but he took the gun away from the guy that shot him and beat him to death with it before he called an ambulance.
doesn't matter if its birdshot or hollowpoint it's where you're hit that counts(would/could/might have arguments aside). i am curious about whose bedroom it was .
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Alright, I'm done shooting for today, I fired about 23 rounds of 2-3/4'', 12-ga, 7-1/2'' bird shot rounds through my Mossy today. And yes, they have smaller shots than most bird shots, so I thought it would be a pretty decent example...

Anyway, I shot a bunch of 2 liter water bottles. They ripped right through them from about 35 feet away, and at about 15 feet away, it completely blew their tops off.

Yes, a buckshot will pretty much completely blow up water bottles, but the bird shot (even with 7-1/2'' bird shots) are not to be underestimated. For home defense, which is usually in between 10-20ft, I'd say they'd kill your intruder without too much of a problem. Especially because these were 7-1/2'' loads, not 2'' or 1''.

I conclude that bird shots are adequate home defense shots. Think about it. A 12-ga buck shot will completely obliterate your enemy for one thing, but it WILL go through them and it WILL destroy and go through your walls, so pretty much the entire general location you fire a buckshot in, it's going to get completely demolished.

For home defense, bird shots may almost be a requirement when your living in a generally tight suburban area, like where I live. Whoever says that bird shots will not be enough to take down your enemy, and that they could easily have enough energy to go to you and kill you... well... I think that's just BS. I actually tested it out with SMALL bird shots, I didn't just get some weird information that anyone could've made up on the internet... I saw it for myself today.

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