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Old 10-20-2012, 05:39 PM   #11
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There are light recoil 12 gauge loads available also. I have a 12 but I keep a 20 double coach gun handy. It is loaded with 2 3/4" 20 pellet #3 buck with an elastic shell carrier on the stock. At 7 yards it patterns 5" and 4". I do have 2 3/4" 9 pellet 00 buck for it as well as 1 oz slugs. It would make a good survival gun.

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I'd take the 12 ga based on ammo alone. I find a much wider variety of loads available on the Internet as well as in local stores. There are reduced pellet loads, reduced recoil loads, sporting loads, law enforcement loads, less lethal loads, etc. For the utmost in availability and versatity the 12 is hard to beat.

I'll even throw in another plug for the Mossberg. I've shot my personal one since the early 1990s as well as the military version of the 500 and 590 in the Navy. I also have an 870 and find both guns to be very dependable.

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Old 10-20-2012, 07:51 PM   #13
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My wife probably would never shoot it.. I would like to teach my 13 yo daughter and 6yo son to shoot it. The 20ga would be better for them?

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My wife probably would never shoot it.. I would like to teach my 13 yo daughter and 6yo son to shoot it. The 20ga would be better for them?
The difference in kick isn't so great that the kids are really going to like a 20 over a 12. As for the wife, she just may need some help learning to shoot a 12 right.

If it is a huge issue for them though the 20 ga will work fine for defense, you just need to work a little harder to find good defensive loads for it. They may cost a little more too. But they are out there.
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For someone really small and gun shy a 410 with 3 pellet 000 buck is a nasty load. Thats 3 each 36 caliber balls. Then there are the Winchester PDX1 disc loads. Slugs for 410 stink.
You might consider the Mossberg SA20. No chance of a short stroke with an auto.
http://www.mossberg.com/product/shotguns-autoloading-sa-20-tactical/75779

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If u r looking at a .410 for defense get a .357 of some kind or a .40 carbine instead...

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I don't get the notion that 20 inherently has so much less recoil than a 12. Depending on the load, a 20 can feel the same, if not worse than a 12 due to the weight of the gun.

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If u r looking at a .410 for defense get a .357 of some kind or a .40 carbine instead...
I already have 2 410's so I have that part covered..... I may just get 1 20ga and 1 12ga LOL......
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I don't get the notion that 20 inherently has so much less recoil than a 12. Depending on the load, a 20 can feel the same, if not worse than a 12 due to the weight of the gun.
You are correct but it is what the shooter believes. The shooter will shrug off the recoil from the 20 because he or she believes it is lighter even though it is more with comparable loads. Now the standard 20 gauge loads are lighter but a 1 oz slug in a 20 will have just as much force as a 1 oz slug in a 12 gauge and the lighter gun will recoil more. The 20 pellet #3 buck load is not as bad as a 9 pellet 00 buck load. A whole bunch less than a 12 or 15 pellet 00 buck load.
Note: Dont ever shoot a buck and ball load through a choke.
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I say 12 and 20. Just another excuse for more firearms. And that way if they want a change you already have the 12 on hand.

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