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Old 08-19-2012, 08:54 PM   #1
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My grandfather gave me most of an old shotgun all of the wood was gone. I am having a hard time figuring out the age and the make.

Here are the pictures I have taken.

pichttp://talarico.imgur.com/all/

Any ideas?

Thanks!


EDIT:
The top of the barrel says "Belgium Laminated Steel"
The hammer assembly says "Machine Made"


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Old 08-19-2012, 09:13 PM   #2
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My grandfather gave me most of an old shotgun all of the wood was gone. I am having a hard time figuring out the age and the make.

Here are the pictures I have taken.

pichttp://talarico.imgur.com/all/

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Need more info, check the barrel stamp.


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When I try to enlarge the photo of the underside of the barrel with the markings, it runs off screen. Get us some centered close up photos. Put photos in your computer, then attach to a posting using the tiny paperclip icon up above where you are typing. Just to the right of the white smiley face.
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I updated the main post with pics.

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When I try to enlarge the photo of the underside of the barrel with the markings, it runs off screen. Get us some centered close up photos. Put photos in your computer, then attach to a posting using the tiny paperclip icon up above where you are typing. Just to the right of the white smiley face.
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OK- here is a really wild assed quasi-educated guess- you may have an Eclipse shotgun. These where made in Belgium during the last 15-20 years of the 1800s, and sold here in the US by H&D Folsom Hardware.

There were several names for the process of making a barrel by winding metal strips around a rod, and heating and hammer welding them together- among other names, Damascus, Twist, Stub, and Laminated steel. These were all meant for BLACK POWDER shells. Some were made (and cared for) better than others. I would not- on the face of it- consider your safe to fire ANYTHING- but restored, MINUS the firing pins, give it a place of honor over the fireplace.

If anyone has a different opinion on make/ history, you will not hurt my feelings any- that was my best guess. You might do a Google image search for Eclipse shotgun, and see how they match up to the outlines and contours of yours.
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Doesn't look like a damascus barrel. More like a lower quality carbon steel. Maybe a remington 1889.

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HJ Sterling double barrel is what it appears to be.

Here is my source: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=445301
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HJ Sterling double barrel is what it appears to be.

Here is my source: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=445301
I agree with this.
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HJ Sterling double barrel is what it appears to be.

Here is my source: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=445301
It is a H.J. Sterling.............
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Hey all, first of all thank you so much for all of the replies.

Here is what I am thinking, I am not sure about it being and H.J. Sterling. I only say this because of the way the hammer assemblies is placed on the gun, it is much father forward like the link posted before in the thread before (http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=10279793) notice how the hammer is in the middle.

In this other gun I saw (http://arms2armor.com/store/product987.html), the Eclipse shotgun suggested above, and the hammer assembly I have it looks like the hammer is at the very front of the piece.

However, I really do not know anything about older firearms and may be 100% off!

I really appreciate all of the help guys.

Thanks!


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