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renegade 02-26-2011 10:33 PM

Help - can you help identify?
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Need help identifying this small smoothbore shotgun. Single Shot. Breech load. Belgian Proof Marks. No Name. Barrel folds to Butstock. Near as I can tell the muzzle bore is about .40

CA357 02-26-2011 11:52 PM

It's interesting. Can you get some close up photos of the various rollmarks and anything else that may help identify it?

renegade 02-27-2011 02:45 AM

Proof Marks on Barrel
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These are the markings found on either side of the barrel close to the breech end.

CA357 02-27-2011 03:03 AM

Thanks, those will help. Now we need an expert to show up.

Benning Boy 02-27-2011 03:23 AM

"Liege" is arguably the most noted Belgian manufacturer.

Apparently, this style was favored by poachers, as it was concealable, and Liege manufactured this style.

c3shooter 02-27-2011 03:54 AM

As mentioned, these were frequently called "poacher's guns"- they would fold enough to fit under a cloak, down pants leg, etc. The stock is known as a skeleton stock- and yes, that should be a .410- but likely a TWO INCH .410, and possibly a black powder 410. The city of Liege was a hotbed of small cottage gunmakers, as well as the national proofhouse of Belgium. I don't have a maker's name for you, but did run across a sister gun, sidexside .folding .410, skeleton stock, priced at 575 L Sterling (minty condition)

B.E. Chaplin - Gun Makers Shop - Gun Repairs - Game Shooting - Gun Alterations - English Shotguns
Scroll down about 1/3 of the page.

A possible (shot in the dark) maker would be A. Francotte. The side lever was characteristic of their actions, and IIRC, they were in Liege.

renegade 02-27-2011 04:24 AM

Interesting............ a poaching gun
The gun displayed on the link to B.E. Chaplin is very similar

THanks for the input!

Hawg 02-27-2011 03:25 PM

It's proofed for black powder so do not use smokeless in it.

BillDeShivs 02-27-2011 09:05 PM

Leige is a city in Belgium, not a maker.

wmille01 02-28-2011 05:16 AM

it's a very nice looking gun, just thinking about it they make survival guns like that now. Kind cool that they had pretty much the same idea way back then.

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