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rsizzle16 03-17-2013 12:15 AM

Is this gun going to kill me?
 
Hopkins and Allen single shot 12 falling block but its old as hell. The barrel has surface rust but no weld cracks or pits

HockaLouis 03-17-2013 12:29 AM

Blackpowder gun though, right?

unclebear 03-17-2013 12:35 AM

pics please! and if it's "old as hell" then my guess is it used black powder shells I would not WOULD NOT! try shooting modern shells in it until you get a hell of a lot more information.

kytowboater 03-17-2013 12:40 AM

Take it to a good smith. Have them check it out.

rsizzle16 03-17-2013 12:41 AM

No it fires shells. sorry about the poor description I don't know much about it yet I bought it right before I left town so I haven't really studied it yet I'm just wondering if there is any things I should keep my eyes out for. I can post pictures and serial # tomorrow .

rsizzle16 03-17-2013 12:45 AM

It looks solid and all the mechanicals work fine but like I said I can't really do much til tomorrow I'm just looking for red flags to keep my eye out for

willshoum 03-17-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rsizzle16 (Post 1178566)
It looks solid and all the mechanicals work fine but like I said I can't really do much til tomorrow I'm just looking for red flags to keep my eye out for

You hit the nail on the head..........You'll shoot your eye out if you ain't carefull, and maybe lose more than that...............Load it up with magnum shells, place in a tight vice, hook a string to the trigger, stand behind cover, then let loose.......If it doesn't blow up, then only shoot field loads in it.......:eek:;)

c3shooter 03-17-2013 02:29 AM

Hopkins & Allen closed their doors in 1916. SOME of their guns were made to use shells LOADED with black powder. Some- like the double barrel I have, was made for smokeless powder.

HOWEVER- 12 g shells were not always 2 3/4 inch shells (and no, you can't tell by trying to fit a shell in it. You need a chamber guage)

SOME of those were damascus or "twist" steel- Rods of steel were heated, twisted around a core in a spiral, re-heated and hammer forged. I do not reccomend shooting those with ANYTHING.

You REALLY need a gunsmith to look it over. And remember- any other advice would be scant comfort while sitting in the Emergency Room.

trip286 03-17-2013 02:38 AM

Damn, I think a falling block shotgun would be freaking sweet. I wonder if I could build one...

hiwall 03-17-2013 03:23 AM

I don't remember ever seeing a falling block in 12 ga. I have seen 410 and some 44XL but nothing bigger.


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