[Ram Rod]

1450 fps mean anything to you in the way of "effectiveness"? I patterned my Rem 870 express 18" HD shotty the other day at 15 yds with 2 3/4" #6 shot for my squirrel hunting and was impressed. Same pattern as my wife's model 520 with a 26" barrel!

[OldYeager]

I grew up in a law enforcement family and watched my dad (a city Marshall) use a 410 singleshot for 'animal control'. Back in those days, there were no Animal Control departments to call. So when feral dogs created a problem for the citizens and dad was called, he went out with the 410. I have seen him drop a wild dog at 150 feet with #4 duck shot easy. I was expecting the animal to yelp and run a ways. Nope, just did a back flip and was down - dead. Dad used #4 shot on all his in the city 'animal control' runs.

Anyways, I keep #4s in my gun most of the time because I think they would be effective at Home Defence ranges, without the danger of heavy caliber pellets hitting the neighbor's house or something.

Just my experience. May be helpful.

[dunerunner]

Too bad we can't get one of these!! The AA12 full auto shotgun!

YouTube - aa-12 full auto shotgun 2

YouTube - aa-12 full auto shotgun 2

[mrm14]

Originally Posted by MP1000

I know it only holds two at a time, and that doesn't bother me at all. I'll just keep extra's in my pocket. It looks easy to load and unload. The reason i'm looking at the double barrel is because "It's a double barrel shotgun". I've always revered the double barrel as a, well I can't think of the right words, so i'll just say "really cool". Here's a link to the one i'm looking at. Please share any comments you have about this particular gun.

Marlin Model LC12-DB

Thanks!

Sides By Sides are cool, I have a old Stevens .16 ga that my grandfather had, and it gets the job done (hunting) For skeet and sporting clays a O/U's are the way to go.

There is something about the way a side by side shotgun looks that is uber cool.

[RMc]

Buckshot
Buckshot is simply lead shot formed to larger diameters. Sizes range in ascending order from size B to Tri-Ball.

Comparison chart
Below is a chart with diameters per pellet and weight for idealized lead spheres.

Size Type Weight Diameter
#TriBall(12 Ga.) Buck 20.41 g (315 gr.) 15.24 mm (0.60")
#0000 Buck 5.51 g (85 gr.) 9.40 mm (0.380")
#000 Buck 4.54 g (70 gr.) 9.14 mm (0.360")
#00 Buck 3.49 g (53.8 gr.) 8.38 mm (0.330")
#0 Buck 3.18 g (49 gr.) 8.13 mm (0.320")
#1 Buck 2.62 g (40.5 gr.) 7.62 mm (0.300")
#2 Buck 1.91 g (29.4 gr.) 6.86 mm (0.270")
#3 Buck 1.52 g (23.4 gr.) 6.35 mm (0.250")
#4 Buck 1.34 g (20.7 gr.) 6.09 mm (0.240")
#FF Buck 1.18 g (18.2 gr.) 5.84 mm (0.230")
#F (TTT) Buck 1.05 g (16.2 gr.) 5.59 mm (0.220")
#TT Buck 0.98 g (15.1 gr.) 5.33 mm (0.210")
#T Buck 0.89 g (13.7 gr.) 5.08 mm (0.200")
#BBB 0.66 g (10.2 gr.) 4.82 mm (0.190")
#BB 0.57 g (8.8 gr.) 4.57 mm (0.180")
#B 0.48 g (7.4 gr.) 4.32 mm (0.170")

[Virginian]

Professional hunters following up wounded big cats carried shotguns. Usually stoked with the equivalent of OO buckshot. Deadliest close range firearm on the planet. Enough said.